25 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

GQ,
As much as I salute your level headed thought, you are on the wrong side of this one my brother.....I agree with TDK and Loki.....You can not legislate morality....If an evil person is intent on creating mayhem and pain, he will find a way........At 20 years of maturity, Adam's evil hate for his mother was so great, that after shooting her in the face, he sought to destroy another still living part of her again ---(the innocent little children of her class).
The callous disregard for human life is a result of evil......
The reckless use of a gun is only one of the many tools of evil..........

 

That is a good point, on the flip side you have New York City that went from one of the worst homicide rates to one of the lowest for a major, populous city.

I know that Bloomberg got tough in his dealings with the Southern states like Virginia that used to have weapons purchased there and then trafficked up to New York City.

Maybe Chicago needs to see where the pipeline is that is flooding their city with illegal weapons, tightening that is one way to have an impact where the supply doesn't keep flooding in.

 

Guess I am looking at what if he never had access to 2 pistols and an automatic rifle so easily in a society where gun acquisition is so easy.

This was apparently a disturbed young man and yet it seemed like he had such easy access to weapons his parents had registration of.

Makes me scratch my head.

Hey maybe he would have created a bomb instead, who knows but with such an easy access to firearms and ammunition he didn't have to for his nefarious purposes.

If he had entered that classroom with a knife those little kids may have stood a better chance, some of them may still be alive tonight.

The reckless use of a gun is one of the most deadly acts that one can undertake, because of its deadly nature as a weapon.

A gun can turn anyone who so desires into an effective killing machine in no time. Its cold, distant and instant in deadliness.

 

What Archman, TDK, and Loki brought up are the reasons I've always been against gun control.

There have been many, many instances where knives and swords were used to kill innocent children by crazy people. If a person is crazy enough, they will ALWAYS find a way. Always.

While I was questioning my anti-gun control stance during today after I heard about the tragedy, reading Archman, TDK and Loki's posts have brought me back to being anti-gun control.

Better mental health care in this country is necessary. Removing the stigma of mental illness is a start - making drugs, such as anti-psychotics, more accessible and cheaper would help. Getting these people access to mental health professionals might help stem some of these tragedies.

I was seeing a movie today and turned my phone on as the movie was ending and saw a text from my friend. I went out to my car and read the story on my phone and cried. I cried for those innocent children. I cried because my daughter was safe in her school. I cried for all of the parents who won't be able to hug their children anymore. I cried because I could hug my daughter.

This is a senseless, horrible tragedy. But calling for gun control isn't the answer. Making the gun laws federally mandated instead of state mandated might make things a bit better though.

 

My heart goes out to parents that were expecting to celebrate christmas with their children, what a terrible time to experience such a loss (Not that any time is the right time). I cannot imagine my girlies going to school one day and not returning, and the hurt the parents are going through right now.

It breaks my heart to know they've been taken from the world too soon, so much potential lost... but it serves as a reminder to tell those you love how you feel about them, some day you may not be able to do so. If there's something to say... don't leave it unsaid.

You make a good point. I think though, that depending on the reason for someone snapping, access to a gun could make a difference. If there was a gun in my house and my parents did something to piss me off and I had a mental illness that would cause me to snap, the gun's easy enough to get to and use.
If there was no gun here, I'd need to know the "right" people to find a gun and a large-ish sum of money... it won't stop everyone, but it will deter some people at least.

 

After colobine and virgina tech, Did anyone think this wan't go to happen sooner or later?


a bit predictable but

How do you correct the issue?

Are they going to put police men in every school and guard up places like high schools nowadays?

 

Well.. No.
No one will pay for it.

A simpler answer might be to keep everything on lock.. With security of some sort guarding the entrances and exits. Like how they do at courthouses.
We can't be led to believe that schoosl are safe for children anymore.
Will be a pain in the butt? Yep.
But had they been in use today with all doors in the school locked and all exits locked the causality rate would have been less
Perhaps without a way into the school or into the class he would have only killed himself while at the school.

 

I think he killed at least one parent.

 

Sad? Yes.

Ban guns? No. That isn't fair to those who use guns responsibly, which is most of the nation.

 

I am so disappointed that this happened to children. My heart goes out to the families of the children and their fellow students. Malice in the heart of some people has no limits.

 

*sigh* It's not the guns that make people do this, we've been over this before. FYI, Connecticut gun laws are among the toughest in the U.S.

I agree with TDK that there should be yearly pysch evals. Except this killer with a bullet-proof vest was 20, below age to own a gun. He was already getting psych evals because he had the Asperger disorder, (characteristics include a lack of empathy for peers).

It's easier to want to blame guns but no one wants to blame the world's culture of gratuitous glamorized violence. According to his FB page he was a huge fan of violent Video Games. So better to censor or out-right ban them. And violent movies. And mind-altering drugs.

 

This is what bothers me. The gun laws should be tough in every state in the country.

 

What do law abiding citizens need with a gun? I have lived my whole life without one and law enforcement has been there everytime I needed protection. What is the need? Not talking about rights but really why do people need them if you arent criminal or live in the country where the law is far away?

 

Bliss you are kidding right?? :smt104

 

We can't blame the video games, movies or music for a persons actions....we all grew up with some sort of violence, hell even every Disney movie has death and violence.

You cannot also give every person with a gun license a psych test either. It was this persons mum who had the license, not him.

Aspergers also can not be blamed for this crime. I know quite a few individuals with it and they do feel things and have empathy.

Simple fact is that guns need to go, but seeing there will never be an agreement about that, there will be incidents continuously and this debate we are all having, continuously

 

Why do the Cops need guns? :smt017 or the military. I wonder if the Jewish people of natzi Germany would have liked to have guns?

 

Our police have guns
Our people do not
I'm fine with that

 

OK, My neighbors have guns and I am fine with that. If I expect to be trusted I must trust others that obey the law.

 

Hmmm...police officers can be so easily corrupted though.

 

Naw, they are angels, while we are ordinary humans.