Hurrican Sandy

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Damayor, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I'm more human that you'll ever know. And worse off than you in terms of net income. But I'm not an ungrateful brat, and trust me on this - whenever some tells me or suggests to me about programs or things I might want to try differently, I sure as hell am not gonna discount it. Id ask for more info because who knows if it's a program I wasn't aware of.

    And I'm definitely NOT going to give up - did you catch TDK's reply?
    Here...
    this was my comment to you...
    BLISS:
    TDK's REPLY:
    Really?
    Like he knows. I KNOW. He doesn't. But you will listen to him because that's his mindset. And yours perhaps. And he feels sad for me??

    Here's your reply Ali to me...
    How the hell would you know what I spoke of in trying to help you - you didn't ask because you didn't want to know.
    And who are you kidding Ali, programs go by your W2's. I KNOW they do. You have to produce your pay-stubs, and yes even for Ind.Contractors. The want bank statements, rent slips...all that shit, and if you are legit, there's no reason for you not to qualify. AND you have a medical condition? The help is out there Ali, don't shoot it down.

    And don't give me the I can't make payment, but you can buy $100 corsets?
    No girl, your health is #1.
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Bliss if it were as simple as you propose why is affordable healthcare even a debate? Why is this not brought up in debates?
    You act like youre the only one with a google search homie lol. Simple logic tells me one thing we wouldbt have 15 million ininsured people if shit was truly that simple
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Thats my point fam. If its so ridiculously simple why is ot up for debate. People who oppose universal healthcare can simply state we already have affordable healthcare. A hundred bucks to one fifty is dirt cheap
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I'm not following. Why what?
     
  5. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    Ungrateful brat?

    Oh, rare. You don't know the half of it. Even though you seem to think you do.

    When I was 33 three years old I was > < close to being put in a fucking nursing home. Because I was having neurological deficits seen in only 80 year olds. I could not dress myself or feed myself half the time. Because of this..I lost a job I loved that included free rent and had to go live with my mom. No one knew what was wrong with my brain..just that it was bad and is (still) located in areas that could literally have me breathing one minute and dead the next.
    I was FORCED to go on all these programs you speak of. The stint with my mom ended up with me staying in a shelter after she screamed at me for 10 minutes straight because I didn't want to hear how horrible my father was to her.

    I have rebuilt my life from scratch and piece by piece in the last 7 years. That is after losing my children to their drug addicted father and being told I could possibly be dead before I even reach 40.

    Don't you dare sit there and tell me I have no idea what the fuck these programs are about. I HAVE been on them bc of things that are NOT my fault and I can't control. I made a decision to NOT let any of my illnesses control my life. I'm going to live it. With or without help.

    And forgive me for buying a 100$ corset ONCE.

    But when you don't know if you'll live long enough to see your grandchild..a steel boned corset is such a little thing in the long run.
     
  6. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    Fuck you..

    My MacBook isn't anywhere near 2500$ AND it was a GIFT from my father for my BIRTHDAY.

    Go one with your 800$ computer. Mine wasn't to much more.
     
  7. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    You don't want to KNOW my story Ali, because if you knew, you'd be silent.

    I DON'T need to tell you it, either. Because as I said, WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

    The issue here is YOU complained you don't have healthcare, and you have found every reason to "explain' why you don't have it, and every reason to counter GENUINE suggestions on how you might get it.

    Once again, you tell me you "know these programs' but you STILL haven't asked. Because you know them all, right. If I could tell you how many times I said "I can't, because..." and my BFF said...."Really? well let me show you this, did you see this?" And guess what, she was RIGHT! I did not know, and I was profusely thankful because is ended up CHANGING MY LIFE significantly.

    But since you know all the programs and have chosen to forsake them, then there is no more need to discuss Ali and her lack of healthcare. I wish you the best.
     
  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    WHOLE FOODS, too. It's why so many people flock to it. You can work P/T there as a second job and they offer you full coverage. Same with Starbucks. You do do what you gotta do.

    See how your suggestions were shot down by TDK that you were smoking weed, all because you suggested there were still jobs out there but maybe not the kind they liked.

    The trucking industry are DESPERATE for drivers-can't find workers.

    I think also in Idaho? there is a huge fraking industry that people are flocking to work there. They now need hospitality people for all the motels springing up to accomate these seasonal workers. When we have Russian doctors come here and be cab drivers..we can't really complain about doing a shitty job to get insurance, over the hump, etc.

    I say this to point out that times are real tough - my industry has been decimated, but in the meantime, I have a part-time job and my BFF suggested to me an opp to make money in her line of work. Is it harder work for less pay?, hell yeah, but I took her up on it - I had NO EXCUSES. (but I deep down, I had a hundred, you feel me)

    It's pretty fucked but u can easily guesitmate who gave it to you just by the verbiage, lol :rolleyes:

    But listen Paniro, THANK YOU for your suggestions man, they aren't wasted here, because while your suggestions are being fought left and right by them, others reading them might benefit. Because what happens is you force people to shift their thinking, me included. If I tried real hard I could find 10 excuses to combat your suggestion and not do shit, but the truth is NONE of what you said is out of even the realm of reasonableness. You've inspired me even more tonight to better my situation, thanks again.

    *ps: Rep coming to make up for the asshole's neg one.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Bliss the problem with your theories are that everyone has access to these opportunities and that there isn't a high volume of competition. No one is saying to give up but its worth mentioning that there are people who need and should get help.
     
  10. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    Then stfu about it.

    I KNOW what is available to me in this area. It's limited because I live in the four year rumor paradise known as Hilo.

    When and IF I REALLY fucking need it..like as in THERE is NO other choice..then I will apply.

    Until then I just do what I do to get by. I don't need antibiotics on a regular basis..and other than my MI, which I maintain by myself even when I HAD these programs you talk about, I'm healthy.

    What is with you fucking people anyway?
    You rag on those who are on assistance as fucking freeloader bums and then you also rag on people who want to get by WITHOUT assistance that's scarce at best and given our economic climate might not even be in existence tomorrow.

    For the love of fuck. Make up your fucking minds already.
     
  11. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    Clearly.
     
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  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I have never ragged on legitimate people who need help...and those people who ragged on freeloading bums, GOOD ON THEM!
    How the hell is my suggestion for you to look into affordable healthcare if you are struggling SINCE YOU BITCHED ABOUT IT, suddenly me getting on you for "not wanting to take assistance". :confused: If you don't want to pay $50-$100 a mnth, fucking don't, so now spare us by shutting your whiney ass UP already!
     
  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    At your first part, I hear you - my industry is almost extinct because of this economy. My ex b/f, an ind. contractor (Window Systems Engineer) lost his job where there are more techs than jobs. He took second jobs doing bs labor standing on his feet all day as smart as that cat is., until he recently finally found a local govt job in his field. But he never ever gave up!!! For every 10 doors slammed, he banged on #11. He'd be on MY ASS to keep at it too when I gave up, that's why Paniro reminded me of his attitude.
    Shit, TDK, I KNOW times are real tough, my heart bleeds for others and for myself....But I'm done with the crying, I now work a SYSTEM that works FOR ME.

    And I'd like to amend your last line by adding..." FOR people who WANT IT."
     
  14. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    You bleed for people, huh?
    Doubtful....
     
  15. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I do. Except for those that make my eyes bleed.
     
  16. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    If pride produces stupid decisions then the only thing she'll have left is the no name bitch. Because if there are safety nets in place and you can't lower your pride to take what is lawfully yours to have then.......... :smt102
     
  17. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

    Wow, this thread has reminded me of how much I LOVE the NHS.

    We don't even pay for prescriptions in Scotland anymore.

    It's sad that in America the poorest go without. Health care is so, so important.

    I'm still a student and I'm not from a rich family so I don't know what I would have done without the NHS. Even last year I don't even want to know how much debt I'd be in for all my medical issues. I was in a psych hospital last year for over three weeks. I saw on Google that it costs around $1000 a day. Damn. I read on Daily Kos that some rape victims even have to pay their own hospital costs. What a fucked up world.

    Sorry to derail further...
     
  18. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    Same thing goes through my mind LS. When I was in hospital last year, I had my own room (quarantine), X-rays, bone scans, MRI and countless bloods, plus 2 ambulances and didn't get my purse out once.

    Thank you Medicare
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    There are people who want it may not be available though. I had a decent job and quot to go back to school. Lucky for me I knew two people I grew up with that were able to get me two low paying jobs which were far less demanding but would help me make ends. My situation is far from the norm. Its all about who you know theses days. Businesses get 50 applications a day with people fighting to be interns not just paid work. I think freeloaders get so much attentuon that people cant see real sufferung anymore. All i can think about is if the numbers say one job four every four applicants then what on earth happens to the other three? Do they just vanish?
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Isnt it bankrupring your country arent the lines out of control
     

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