Protecting the Ones You Love

Cherok33, check out the Wikipedia information on the now famous home invasion that occurred a few years ago. "The Cheshire, Connecticut Home Invasion". A mother was raped and murdered and also her two daughters. So much for burglers being human. If I can get an article on this for you, I will ASAP.

 

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This totally laughable, I would never hinge my life on an assumption.

 

A shotgun is without a doubt the best home defense weapon. I go with buck shot, would never trust my life to birdshot; this is a good post, just have to disagree with you on glocks they are very low maintenance and dependable. Revolvers are the most reliable handguns though, just easier to load a pistol quicker than a revolver, and you have more rounds to expend. Pistols also seem safer, I feel comfortable sleeping with my pistol near me while it is loaded, ready to cock if needed, you would have to trust the safety of a revolver to do the same.

 

What does this have to do with protecting your home and your love ones??

 

Enjoyment would NEVER enter the picture. In fact, it's the worst feeling in the world, I would imagine... to have no choice but to pull the trigger.

But instinctively humans either fight or flght...if you cant flight, you have to fight. Is it fair that an intruder gets the edge over you by his sheer physical advantage?

If you can, you warn an intruder. But any intruder that comes at you regardless, you have to shoot.
He's not coming at you to dance with you.

And if you are a parent, the intruder - regardless if he is there to take your valuables or your life - doesn't get that benefit of the doubt over your kids safety. You won't even question it, it will be instinctive (if you love your children).
(Think bears/lionesses/tigresses behavior when another tries to get near her cubs.)

Any intruder knows the risk they take when they stalk, break-in and enter your home.

 

Yeah, see this all comes back to it being an American thing. You guys just think differently. Aussies don't have guns in the home. We just don't, and we're doing fine without them. I don't think Australians will ever be able to understand the American obsession with guns. We're just too different.
It's completely looney to me, but if it makes sense in your world...what the fuck do I care? As long as you don't bring that mentality to my country, it's all good. :smt043

 

Ok, but this thread was not about guns, it was about protecting the ones you love, you did not mention how you would protect anything, you could have stopped at answering D web pro's question, but you used this platform to be critical and condesending, and now you don't care? Whoopty fucking doo :smt024

 

I believe in exercising my second amendment rights. Protecting the family is the main reason I would use my gun. Guns are bad only if you misuse them. A handsaw can be a lethal weapon if it's misused. I do believe that firearm education and safety courses should be taken and passed with suitable proficiency before a person is allowed to own a handgun or rifle.

 

Well Sin you know and I know that in Australia, the ONLY reason Australians don't have guns for protection is because they are outlawed. Unless you are a cop or a farmer/hunter, you can't have one, can you? or have the laws changed since I left there.

So you really can't speak to the understanding of anyone's mentality unless guns became a free-for-all (in Australia) and Aussie's DECLINED to buy them for their own protection. Then you might be correct that Aussies think differently.

 

I'm with the Australians on this. I have said it before, and I will say it again -I find the owning of guns to be completely abhorrent. As far as this American is concerned, the 2nd Amendment has been bastardized by the NRA, and ignorant yokels who think that owning a gun is going to save their asses when it comes to someone looking to shoot with nothing to lose. I look at it as, if my time is up, it's up.

That, and get a fucking alarm system at your house. Jeez...it's 2012, not 1012.

 

Beasty, I realize your previous post this was directed to Sin Mari, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that knives are a common form of self-defense weaponry over there.

So the culture of defending one's self with a weapon is not alien to the mentality of Aussies. Aussies WILL stab you, bash your head in with bats, or busted bottles...and I would imagine, shoot you if they had a gun.

As well, armed-robberies have always been a part of Australian crime culture, but it was usually confined to bank hold-ups. It seems it has spread to robberies of unarmed homeowners, particularly the elderly, according to the link below*.
(there is a true/false dissection in the response to a letter by an Aussie cop, but the facts remain that guns are used in crimes quite often)

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp


Also more stats...

Australian homicides percentage (not including survival of being shot) involving firearms 1915-2003

http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.aspx

*surprised to find that in 1968, 44% of all homicides in Australia were by firearms. Wow. Its at 16% today. Who knew.

 

You can share info with me anytime, you are quite candid and knowledgeable,thus easy to appreciate. Sexy too! Oh and soo is your avatar.:mrgreen:

 

Thank you!, Beasty...that's very sweet of you.

I think YOU are extremely knowledgeable. In many topics.

But on guns, I love a man who respects his firearm. I see you do.

 

True with the ease of loading the clip in the Glock -- if my ex's Glock didn't always jam on me, I might have taken to one. I just could never get it unjammed...was very frustrating. :-| I trust you are a pro at yours.
I love my revolver because there is barely a chance of mechanical failure. (I have a .357 Taurus) and I sleep much better too with mine at the ready, so I guess whatever works for the individual. Maybe I need to re-visit messing with a Glock one more time....

 

I was all about revolvers at one point, so I understand where you are comming from. I can understand why this experience could affect your choice of defense, after all this is not a decision that should be taken lightly. The 357 is a good gun though. You do know what you are talking about, just think you had a bad experience with a glock that was not properly taken care of. At the end of the day it is more about what works for the individual. I must admit that I am intrigued at the fact you are knowledgeable in your endeavors and yet open minded. :smt055 Feel free to message me with your questions or ideas about any subject as they come. I would like to hear more from you.

 

i think you're being a little rough with our sinful, beasty. she's correct in her thinking, from an australian's pov. we aussies cannot own guns, and even before the law came in stating that, we still were not that interested in them. protection to me is security, a phone to call the police, a dog to bark and a cricket bat. even if guns were readily available, i wouldn't use one

 

Hmmm, the Glock was pretty new...anyway, maybe it was I needed a better Glock instructor?

And thank you! for the offer of advice. I will defintely keep that in mind.

 

Hmmm! Don't know how I missed this one, but I'll revive a 12-year old thread. lol. Being a city kid I never felt a need to own a gun as I don't hunt and so on. However, some time ago I did decide to get a handgun for defense at home. I have a Glock 19 which I found to be perfect for me. A couple of years ago when the USSC decision made it easier to get a concealed carry permit... I applied for it. I'm not always carrying, but at home... I have it at the ready. Hopefully, I'll never have a need to use my gun other than at the range.

 

I have never kept a handgun because of my concern about my son somehow getting a hold of it and an accident happening. That being said, I do understand the need for one in many areas of the country. I have fired guns and am conversant in their handling and use and have thought about getting a concealed carry permit myself, but would probably just keep it at home for protection in the event of a home invasion.