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Discussion in 'In the News' started by Frederick, Aug 29, 2012.

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orejon4 said: ↑

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408

Here's more complete coverage of what's happening at the convention.

On RNC Opening Night, Republicans Dare to Build a Lie
By Charles P. Pierce
at 11:47PM

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408#ixzz254ldSqF0

TAMPA, Fla. — It was about halfway through the speech given by Mary Fallin, by the grace of a pitiless god the governor of Oklahoma, where I finally came close to losing it. She rolled herself into this remarkable passage:

The history of my great state of Oklahoma offers a great example of pursuing the American Dream. It was built and settled by pioneers movibe west to seek better lives. During the Great Land Run of 1889, thousands of families rushed to put a stake down on empty plots of land. They built tent cities overnight. They farmed the land and they worked hard. And, in 1897, eight years after the land run, a handful of adventurous pioneers risked their own money — not the federal government's money — to drill Oklahoma's first oil well, the Nellie Johnstone. By doing so, these early-day pioneers changed the future and Oklahoma forever and today Oklahoma is one of the nation's key energy producers and job creators. President Obama wants us to believe that Oklahomans owe that success to the federal government — to the Department Of Energy,to the EPA, to the IRS, or maybe even to him. Mr. President, we know better. As we say in Oklahoma, that dog won't hunt.

Handed in as a seventh-grade history essay, this would get no better than a D. Delivered to the convention of one of our only two political parties, it was perhaps the most singularly dishonest speech I have ever seen a politician give, and I grew up in Massachusetts, and Willard Romney was once my governor. My god, Oklahomans wouldn't even have Oklahoma without the federal government, without the Homestead Act of 1889 or the Railroad Act — both, by the way, achievements of a Republican presidents named Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Harrison. And the land wasn't exactly "empty," Governor. It got emptied by a big-government program called the United States Army. You know what your state would be without the federal government, Governor, without the votes for the legislation from congressmen from the east and north, without the soldiers from New England and the Great Lakes? You know what Oklahoma would be?

Sand, with a whole lot of pissed-off Native Americans.

I'm not sure if it will be played this way. Ann Romney was sweet and lovely — and very defensive about people "attacking" hubby's success, but only as a "mom," of course — and Chris Christie brought down the house. But the Republican Party did something remarkable at its convention on Tuesday. It set out on an experiment to see exactly how much unmitigated hogwash the American political system can contain on a single evening. The Republican Party has set out at its 2012 convention in search of the Event Horizon of utter bullshit. It has sought to see precisely how many lies, evasions, elisions, and undigestible chunks of utter gobbledegook the political media can swallow before it finally gags twice and falls over dead, leaving the rest of America suckers all the same. What you didn't see in primetime, from Arthur Davis to Ted Cruz, and from one 2016 contender to another, was the GOP embarking upon the task of seeing exactly how much nonsense it could produce at top volume before democracy screams and gives up, like Noriega in Panama when they played the metal music at him.

It was something to see, I'll tell you. An entire evening based on a demonstrable lie.

The theme was We Did Build It — which, as every sentient being knows, is a mendacious barbering of something the president said a while back. (On the video screens in the hall, television commercials based on a severely edited version of the president's remarks were interspersed between the speeches, just in case somebody sought relief from the lies for a couple of seconds.) And there also was a lot of talk about how the various speakers Did Build It.

There was Jack Gilchrist from New Hampshire, the metal-shop owner, who was briefly an important Romney surrogate until it was revealed that his company took a few cool millions in small-business loans. There was Sher Valenzuela, running for lieutenant governor of Delaware, who talked about how she and her husband Did Build their business. She also talked about her husband, who was a soldier, and her father, the former drill sergeant and "a blue-collar union guy." She did not talk about her sideline, which is giving PowerPoint presentations to people — probably, I am sure, not in convention centers built with tax dollars — on how to suck up government contracts. There was a similar thing going on with Bob McDonnell, the slippery, up-and-coming transvaginalist of Virginia, who proved that his family Did Build It, by having his father join the army, his children doing the same, and himself, finding the "same job" in government once held by Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry. After listening to this laughable bafflegab for a spell, you begin to wonder whether or not the U.S. military is a rather large venture-capital concern with anti-tank weapons.

It was an entire evening based on a demonstrable lie. It was an entire evening based on demonstrable lies told in service to the overriding demonstrable lie. And there was only one real story for actual journalists to tell at the end of it.

The Republicans simply don't care.

They don't care that they lie. They don't care that their lies are obvious. They don't care that their lies wouldn't fool an underpaid substitute Social Studies teacher in a public middle school, who would then probably go out one night and get yelled at by Chris Christie. ("They believe in teacher's unions. We believe in teachers," he said in his speech. Yeah, you just don't believe in paying them.) They don't care that their history is a lie and that, by spreading it, they devalue the actual history of the country, which is something that belongs to us.

Did Ted Cruz really quote Martin King in this hall? Did Artur Davis, the newly minted Republican turncoat from Alabama, just cite Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Lyndon Fking Johnson as examples of "leaders" who "reached across the aisle"? Lyndon reached across the aisle? Yeah, he did, and he grabbed their peckers and put them in his pocket, and he didn't give them back until the skinflint bastards coughed up Medicare. Jesus, this was pathetic. They don't care that they lie so obviously that they always get caught, like they did with the evening's entire theme, like they have in and around the Tampa Bay Times Forum, or with the story of poor Jack Gilchrist. The Republicans will just tell the lie again. And again. And once more, until people get tired of telling the truth in response.

It was an entire evening based on a demonstrable lie because it was an entire evening based on rejecting — publicly and dishonestly, and without caring that the facts of your own biographies give the lie to the words you're saying — the idea of a general political commonwealth as expressed through the national government, which has been the great engine behind the expansion of the country's size, the country's wealth, and, yes, the country's freedom. It was a purchase in that political commonwealth, and not in a loose confederation of states, that King sought, and that Lyndon sought to give the country's poorest citizens, including the vote, which the government of John Kasich in Ohio is presently working assiduously to roll back.

It was an entire evening based on a demonstrable lie, and it was topped off by a demonstrable liar named Chris Christie, who talked about how the president can't lead, and that nobody wants to tell the Americans the truth of the sacrifices we have to share, and talked about "politicians who pander" at a convention that is preparing to nominate Willard Romney, which was the final hilarious lie of the night, since Romney hasn't stopped pandering since he walked down the steps of the Massachusetts State House in 2006.

Earlier, though, Christie rang the theme of the evening's overriding demonstrable lie, too. He talked about how his family Built It, his Irish father and his Sicilian mother.

They both lived hard lives. Dad grew up in poverty. After returning from Army service, he worked at the Breyer's ice-cream plant in the 1950's. With that job, and the GI Bill, he put himself through Rutgers University at night to become the first in his family to earn a college degree.

Chris, old man, you didn't even build yourself yourself. The tax dollars — the federal tax dollars — of, among other people, my parents paid your father's Army salary, and they paid for the G.I. Bill. The tax dollars of thousands of other people paid for his education at Rutgers, which is, as it proclaims, The State University Of New Jersey. All of them were proud to do it, because they knew that they were part of a political commonwealth that has as its proudest expression a national government in which all citizens have purchase.

And, Chris, and Bob, and Sher, and Jack, and all of you, you're welcome.

Liars.

MORE FROM TUESDAY NIGHT ON THE FLOOR: Scott Walker, Rick Santorum, Mitt & Maine & the Women the Vote, the Todd Akin Guy, the Screwing of Ron Paul, the Hurricane, and More
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Tony Soprano, Aug 31, 2012

#81
The Dark King Well-Known Member

paniro187 said: ↑

so you say they havehnt?
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Im saying Dems dont picket political leaders based on race. The current incarnation of the KKK The Neo Nazis and Tea Partiers are all Rwpublicans. Find me a racist who is a current democrat please

The Dark King, Sep 1, 2012

#82
goodlove New Member

saintaugusta said: ↑

Black Republicans are fucking annoying. And too white for me. My old boyfriend at least was Libertarian. He voted for McCain "so he could keep his guns". And to be plain contrary. He was one of those cowboy boot wearing, vintage coat-wearing, blue-grass/punkrock/prog-rock/Sam Cook listening rockabilly types. It would have been too "mainstream" of him to be a black guy voting for Obama. LOL. I am blacker than he was (in his mind). :smt081
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LOL. classic. dont let the others get under your skin....dont know where i was going with that

satyr said: ↑

No surprises here. American politics has gotten uglier and Republican Party even whiter and uglier since the election of our first black president.
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oh saintaugusta, here i go.....what do you mean....whiter?

Iggy said: ↑

lmao at thinking only Republicans are the ones making hateful comments on youtube.
ANd btw, I gotta ask, how do you know its actually Republicans making these hateful comments on youtube?
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Iggy said: ↑

not all racists are republicans.
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they are not all racists they just fit the profile

goodlove, Sep 1, 2012

#83
Jase Active Member

Republicans get caught doing, saying, or emailing something racist almost on a weekly basis these days. I expect it to get worse after Obama is re-elected.

Jase, Sep 1, 2012

#84
pettyofficerj New Member

lol

pettyofficerj, Sep 1, 2012

#85
Ra Well-Known Member

Iggy said: ↑

I just reported you for calling me the N word. Congrats.

You guys are really classy on the left and are once again proving me how intolerant/hostile and racist some of you are.
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Wow. Hypocrite much there, Mr. Personal Attacks R Us?

Ra, Sep 1, 2012

#86
saintaugusta New Member

Frederick said: ↑

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black guy reporting black guy for calling him the n word? I call a white guy. Might as well write PUSS on your lily white forehead and buy Magnums just to have them bag on you and fall off mid-session. End story.:smt043

saintaugusta, Sep 1, 2012

#87
APPIAH Well-Known Member

Iggy said: ↑

I just reported you for calling me the N word. Congrats.

You guys are really classy on the left and are once again proving me how intolerant/hostile and racist some of you are.
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Ooooh i'm scared! To mention classy and your name in a sentence would be an aberration.

APPIAH, Sep 1, 2012

#88
Iggy Banned

saintaugusta said: ↑

black guy reporting black guy for calling him the n word? I call a white guy. Might as well write PUSS on your lily white forehead and buy Magnums just to have them bag on you and fall off mid-session. End story.:smt043
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He used the n word in a derogatory way. Not acceptable imo.

And how the hell are you even still allowed to post here?

Kudos to the webmaster on his fair & balance moderating lol

Iggy, Sep 1, 2012

#89
Iggy Banned

APPIAH said: ↑

Ooooh i'm scared! To mention classy and your name in a sentence would be an aberration.
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Once again proving how right I am. Jealous much?

Iggy, Sep 1, 2012

#90
Iggy Banned

Eye of Ra said: ↑

Wow. Hypocrite much there, Mr. Personal Attacks R Us?
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I'll admit that I've jokingly clowned on people on here but I keep things pretty light. Do you think its okay for people on here to call others "token Niggers"?

THis is the type of shit that I was complaining about earlier.

Iggy, Sep 1, 2012

#91
pettyofficerj New Member

Iggy said: ↑

I'll admit that I've jokingly clowned on people on here but I keep things pretty light. Do you think its okay for people on here to call others "token Niggers"?

THis is the type of shit that I was complaining about earlier.
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One mans joke is another mans heart ache

pettyofficerj, Sep 1, 2012

#92
Alinoa New Member

Well, iggy, in ALL fairness...

The GOP did host a fundraising party on a yacht called cracker. People muse that the name whitey was already taken.

That's your party and they supposedly like whites.

Go figure.

And Clint is a turd.
He's old and needs to be retired for good.

Alinoa, Sep 1, 2012

#93
pettyofficerj New Member

Alinoa said: ↑

Well, iggy, in ALL fairness...

The GOP did host a fundraising party on a yacht called cracker. People muse that the name whitey was already taken.

That's your party and they supposedly like whites.

Go figure.

And Clint is a turd.
He's old and needs to be retired for good.
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still waiting for my yahoo chat :smt022

pettyofficerj, Sep 1, 2012

#94
Morning Star Well-Known Member

You can dish it out, but you can't take it in? :smt103 Iggy, I always had the impression that you are somewhat consistent in your attitude. You laugh at people when they respond to you, but the minute someone drops "nigger" in your face, you get all mad.

Come on...laugh it off for me, will you?

Iggy said: ↑

I'll admit that I've jokingly clowned on people on here but I keep things pretty light. Do you think its okay for people on here to call others "token Niggers"?

THis is the type of shit that I was complaining about earlier.
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Morning Star, Sep 1, 2012

#95
Ra Well-Known Member

Iggy said: ↑

Do you think its okay for people on here to call others "token Niggers"?

THis is the type of shit that I was complaining about earlier.
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If they're just clowin' on you homey, why not? Wasn't any disrespect meant by it. Just like all times you've called me "Grandpa" right? No disrespect at all from that.......:|

You can't honestly call foul about others seemingly disrespecting you when your history on this site is pretty much doing that very thing to others on an ongoing basis. And excusing it as "just clowning" doesn't get you off the hook either.

Ra, Sep 1, 2012

#96
Alinoa New Member

Eye of Ra said: ↑

If they're just clowin' on you homey, why not? Wasn't any disrespect meant by it. Just like all times you've called me "Grandpa" right? No disrespect at all from that.......:|

You can't honestly call foul about others seemingly disrespecting you when your history on this site is pretty much doing that very thing to others on an ongoing basis. And excusing it as "just clowning" doesn't get you off the hook either.
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Personally I hate clowns.

They scare the bejesus out of me.

Alinoa, Sep 1, 2012

#97
Morning Star Well-Known Member

Wake up the next morning with a guy in a clown suit licking your pussy and see what happens.

Alinoa said: ↑

Personally I hate clowns.

They scare the bejesus out of me.
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Morning Star, Sep 1, 2012

#98
Alinoa New Member

pettyofficerj said: ↑

still waiting for my yahoo chat :smt022
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I can't chat with anyone in iMessage except those with iMessage.

Someday I will actually sign in to yahoo.

And Skype is better for me anyway. I use it on my iPad.

Alinoa, Sep 1, 2012

#99
pettyofficerj New Member

Alinoa said: ↑

I can't chat with anyone in iMessage except those with iMessage.

Someday I will actually sign in to yahoo.

And Skype is better for me anyway. I use it on my iPad.
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my skype name is the same as my forum name

:smt103

pettyofficerj, Sep 1, 2012

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