voter suppression laws--via the GOP

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/04/voter_suppression.html

 

The GOP works with ALEC to supress Black voters.

 

Pennsylvania

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every state needs to do this to circumvent the theft of the presidency by the likes of Romney/Ryan and the billionares that support their myopic vision.

how is it he wants privacy regarding his taxes but my ovaries are fair game to him?

 

No way!!! They are making people bring their ID to vote? Those evil Republicans!!

What's next? Making people show ID to buy alcohol or making people show ID when using a credit card.

 

And why do you now need to show photo ID simply to vote? Why are Republicans trying to sell voter fraud as the reason when the cases of that ever happening are so minuscule it can't even be considered as a problem to even require these types of laws that have only now started to be implemented since Obama was elected? Why so paranoid about people simply voting?

 

I'm much more convinced that this whole voter ID law nonsense is all about voter suppression. Normally, when there is a situation that is widespread, there would be legitimate grounds for laws to be enacted. But in this case, in the past decade, there have been only less than .0001% cases regarding voter fraud. And they mostly have been by political officials.

Last I recall, voting is a right for all Americans. Furthermore, the people who would be most affected are those who are poor and live in isolated small towns who don't have public transportation. Nothing to address that whatsoever.

I do call this situation completely political.

http://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/

 

Voting is one of the most important things we can do in this country. We ask people to show their ID for a million other small things in this country. Why are you so paranoid to not show your ID?

The number of underage kids buying alcohol is minuscule compared to the number of kids buying alcohol legally. But the reason we ask for ID is so that prevent a huge catastrophe like someone getting killed as a result of DUI. Voting is extremely important and so by showing ID's you can remove double casting or preventing people with felonies from voting.

 

Voting is not a right for all Americans- You need to be over 18 with no felony convictions. Those two things can be solved with a photo ID.

There are 207,643,594 eligible voters in the United States. Even using your .0001% rule that would be 20,764 incidents of voter fraud. More than enough to decide a crucial battleground state.

 

Then you're making talking points. And an error on my part, hoping you would be so smart as to click on the link, it would show that the number is significantly less than the 20,764 provided, and that further makes the voter registration laws much more insignificant and pointless. Fairly hypocritical on your part when countering Ra's alcohol analogy using minuscule. Why not apply to all cases, especially something like voter rights.

Plus, felons DO have the right to vote under these circumstances. See the link below. Or since you're too lazy to click, I'll paste it on here for your convenience, sonny.

https://wei.sos.wa.gov/agency/osos/en/voters/Pages/felons_and_voting_rights.aspx

 

Where I live one does not need to show ID to vote because if someone gets either a drivers license or state ID you are ask if you want to become a registered voter of the state. If you reply "yes" two things happen: You automatically are added to the legal voters list of the state & receive a voters card for an assigned polling place within your residential area and you get added to the legal resident jury pool for the state. Some people in order to avoid jury duty for whatever reasons say "no". So when you go to your assigned polling place to vote here they ask you your name. If your name is not on the list your ass can't vote. Simple as that. No fraud worries. So there are better ways to prevent voter fraud and allow people a way to exercise their right to vote other than what you and some Republicans are advocating.

 

Say what you want but everyone knows, in fact the RNC chairs in many battleground states have said as much, the 'new' voter ID laws were implemented to suppress the poor and minority vote in major urban areas.

In many states once you've been released from prison after serving your term, a convicted felon has his voting rights restored.

Michael Vick for instance is eligible to vote in the presidential election in November.

No one knows how many poor and minorities don't have valid ID. I think a percentage of elderly voters don't have current ID,( my uncle has his driver's license for example but it's expired and he'd have to travel out of state to even track his birth certificate. My uncle is a Korean war disabled vet, yet these GOP assholes would deny his right to vote in Virginia because he ID isn't up to date!!).

I would think if you have some type of job, you have ID, but sometimes people are employed strictly off their SSN and previous W2.

Some of the underhanded BS pulled by the GOP just defies reason.

If you're a citizen NO ONE should have the right to restrict your ability to vote. Opponents should be forced to prove a voter IS NOT eligible to vote, instead of the other way around.

 

It's not a talking point. If Obama came out and said you need to show ID...you guys wouldn't have any problem. And guess what? I wouldn't either.

And yes I clicked on your link and saw how felons can restore their right to vote. But when they show up to a voting booth, how would the voting station manager know that unless they provided the necessary documentation and ID??

 

What happens if someone gets your voter card?? Then they get to vote using your name because they aren't checking for ID. Or if someone who legally has a right to vote is gives a felon their voter card? So yes, there are still fraud concerns.

Here's a crazy way to solve it...show ID!!!

 

You do realize that both Republicans and Democrats would have to show ID's. The law doesn't say only blacks and Democrats need to show ID. So put down the violin, go to DMV and get a license, and register to vote. If voting meant anything to you, its worth an afternoon to take the steps necessary.

 

How would someone get my voters card and if for some reason they did (stolen wallet I suppose) why the hell would they want to use it to vote??


Can you say REACHING in order to justify a position?

 

Don't be a lying prick. You said directly that felons don't have the right the vote. You never stated anything further than that, which tells me that you didn't know at all on the voting procedures regarding felons.

And as for the talking point comment, I'm speaking on you not looking at the link, but rather went by my post strictly without looking into the link, otherwise, you wouldn't use the 20,764 number to validate your insignificant point. Again, the actual numbers provided are much smaller than that and again, it's not a significant number to install voter ID laws otherwise, it would have been done a long time ago. So again, why bring this up NOW?

 

I stated felons don't have the right to vote. Each state has different laws, so I think making that general assertion was perfectly fine.

My point of illustrating the 20,764 people was to show how ridiculous it is to say why should we check ID because there is only .0001% voter fraud. That isn't an insignificant number when they are 207 million people voting.

So just tell me...why are you making such a big deal about showing your ID? You probably do it several times a week for small stuff, but you won't do it to vote?

 

It doesn't have to be stolen. You could lose it, drop it, it could be delivered to the wrong person by mail, someone could use it on accident (my dad and I share the same name). My point is that it can happen, however small the percentage. And the fact that Democrats are making such a big deal about this means they will be looking for any excuse when the election doesn't go their way. Just show the ID...it takes 2 seconds

 

Someone is confused. Democrats aren't the ones worrying about supposed voter fraud to get the election to go their way. The whole voter ID thing and trying to insure Obama does not get a second term is exactly why Republicans have now made this an issue. It was never an issue in any other elections until now.