13 shot in 30 minutes last night in chicago

ive documented how deadly chicago has been with various weekend crime numbers, but this is getting downright scary.

the truth is this is all in black areas.

I would be in favor of stop and frisk in high crime areas, even though almost all of the people getting checked will be black.

you just get to a point where something drastic needs to happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/chicago-shootings-19-woun_n_1827530.html

 

One word sums this up

"GANGS"

These mofos have nothing else going on in life, but who controls what turf, wears what colors and vendettas over you shot my homie, I'm going to shoot you.

These fools are doing a fine job of population control on themselves, too bad they also take innocent lives as well.

I say stop and frisk away. Chicago has to get this shit under control it has become ridiculous already.

 

Something needs to be done and quickly.

There have been more killings this August so far than in the entire month of August 2011.

 

Taken from article on 8/21/12:

As of Monday, there have been 38 homicides recorded in August, three more than all of August 2011, the statistics show. During the first 19 days of August last year, there were 22 homicides.

Overall, 346 people have been slain in Chicago in 2012, compared with 265 during the same period last year, an increase of about 31 percent. Shootings are also up by about 8 percent.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...nglewood-and-harrison-killings-chicago-police

 

Absolutely sickening its like life has no value in these communities.

When your death becomes a mere statistic it speaks to nature of what is taking place.

What is talking place in Chicago is disgusting, wanton violence.

 

Was just going to post this. Its sickening and an embarrassment to the black community.

 

I don't know what is being done on the ground in Chicago but shouldn't people be out in full force speaking up against this and wanting an end to this kind of violence in their neighborhoods.

I have not heard of any organized effort on the part of community leaders to adress this in the media.

Just because you are poor shouldn't mean you risk getting a bullet for walking around your neighborhood thanks to an epidemic of gang violence.

Chicago has a long history of gangs of course, but this shit is ridiculous. I mean one could confuse those crime stats for a neighborhood in Damascus and they are in the midst of a civil war, what's the rationale in Chicago's poor black neighborhoods, protecting drug turf and repping your colors. SMH.

 

Chicago has historically had a gang problem since the 1960s that rivals LA's. The only difference is it doesn't feel like a monolithic blue vs. red war waged by two sides, so it has often been ignored in national crime discussions. It's more like each of 13 sides are all against all the other 12. It's having a huge impact on the conceal-and-carry discussion in the midwest.

 

And this doesn't help....

Lack of cooperation stymies most shooting cases, Tribune finds

About 75 percent of the nearly 1,200 nonfatal cases are suspended because Chicago police struggle with victims' mistrust, fear while trying to solve crimes

By David Heinzmann, Chicago Tribune reporter 6:22 p.m. CDT, August 27, 2012

Chicago police have suspended nearly 80 percent of their investigations into nonfatal shootings on the grounds that victims wouldn't cooperate, according to a review of more than 1,100 cases through the first seven months of the year.

The statistics are a stark reminder of both the level of violence on Chicago's gang-infested streets, as well as the difficulties police face in trying to penetrate barriers of mistrust and silence that encompass the city's most dangerous communities.

Under pressure for a homicide rate that is about 31 percent higher than last year, Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy has maintained that putting more officers on district beats will make neighborhoods safer as cops build trust among residents and knowledge of the streets they patrol.

But for now, the inability to solve the vast majority of shootings only aggravates the homicide problem.

"The bottom line is it's frustrating. … That no-snitch code that's still out there," said Chief of Detectives Thomas Byrne. "Shootings are a precursor to a homicide."

Through the first seven months of 2012, there were 1,165 nonfatal shooting cases in Chicago, according to police records reviewed by the Tribune. Investigations into 75.9 percent of those cases have been classified as "suspended" because the victims declined to cooperate with police, the statistics show. An additional 4.4 percent of cases have been designated "exceptional cleared closed," meaning police have identified a suspect, but victims have declined to cooperate with a prosecution.
Without the cooperation of a shooting victim, police detectives have little hope of making a case against a suspect stick, multiple investigators said. And with a caseload that can exceed 100 shootings per year, detectives in the city's high crime areas have little choice but to move on and try to make progress on homicides and other cases, one veteran investigator said.

Police said they often find themselves on the outside looking in at long-standing gang battles, where lack of cooperation may signal impending retaliation.

"Oftentimes, it's just because they intend to handle it themselves," said Deputy Chief John Escalante, who runs patrol operations on the North Side.

To head off such cases, Escalante said police try to identify associates of the victims who have histories with guns or violence and who may be tapped by the victim's gang to carry out the retaliation. Police said they are also increasingly looking for other ways to get a suspected shooter off the street, whether it's a drug charge, outstanding warrant or parole violation.

But the volume of violence in Chicago makes it difficult to keep up. As an example, Escalante described the mayhem surrounding a single Northwest Side gang member over the last several months.

"One guy was implicated in two shootings in December. He was shot at in March, hit in April, and we believe he was the shooter in a case in June," Escalante said. Because of a lack of cooperation in any of those incidents, police are still unable to arrest the man.

Police frustrated with the lack of cooperation also point to a more high-profile case, in which two of their own were victims.

In June 2010, a South Side gang member, Timothy Herring, was implicated in a shooting while on parole for another crime, but police were unable to get the victim's cooperation. Months later, police said, Herring committed a garage burglary and then returned to the scene, where he killed a police evidence technician and the homeowner, a retired Chicago Housing Authority police officer.

Byrne said when children or people not involved in gangs are the victims of shootings and homicides, witnesses are less reluctant to cooperate with police.

"When innocent persons are shot, we tend to get more tips and clues than when it's gangbanger on gangbanger," he said.

But some people in communities ravaged by violence bristle at the quickness of police and the media to label crimes "gang-related" before all of the details are known.

Pamela Montgomery-Bosley's 18-year-old son Terrell was killed in the parking lot of his church in 2006 as he waited for choir practice to start. Police first labeled the shooting gang-related but then backed off after details emerged that Terrell, a community college freshman, had no such involvements. Montgomery-Bosley thinks cases go unsolved in struggling neighborhoods because police don't make it a priority.

"All of them are not gang-related when they go back and talk to the families. That's just a way out so they won't have to investigate it. They need to put more detectives on cases," Montgomery-Bosley said. "When (offenders) shoot, they shoot from a distance because they're cowards, so they shoot innocent people."

After several years of decline, Chicago's problem with gang-related violence moved front and center again this year as the number of killings spiked. At times this spring, the number of homicides was 60 percent greater than the same period last year.

Although shooting investigations may be suspended, homicide cases have to stay open until they are resolved, police said. But detectives working homicides face similar frustrations with cooperation. Of the more than 300 homicides in the first seven months of the year, only 32 percent had been cleared, according to police statistics.

From Friday night to Sunday afternoon, seven people were killed and at least 33 wounded in shootings.

McCarthy has had to face questions about the effectiveness of his strategy to dismantle large units long used to saturate neighborhoods awash in gang conflicts and redeploy officers to beats in districts. He has stood by his plan, arguing that over time, more officers on the beat will be able to build relationships that lead to greater intelligence about who's responsible for violent crime.

"If we got more cooperation, more tips and clues, yeah, it's going to make the neighborhood safer," Byrne said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-shooting-no-cooperation-20120827,0,5959328.story

 

With Chicago gang violence is cyclical and reflective of the corruption in its political arena as well. There is a long history of gang murders that can be traced back to the time of Al Capone and Bugs Moran on up to the Gangster Disciples. The level of economic and racial segregation also makes the city dramatically different from what you'd find in L.A., where gang violence has been on the decline.

There was no meaningful action from City Hall during the Daley era(s) to address the rampant poverty and unemployment on the South Side. Perhaps had Chicago won its bid to host 2016 Olympics, it would've opened up opportunities for working class blacks there?

 

Call in the National Guard since people can't act right.

 

That is sad. I can understand people being reluctant but how is the killing going to stop.