Colorado shooting movie theater shooting

Discussion in 'In the News' started by FG, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. blackbrah

    blackbrah Well-Known Member

    I'm curious how this guy was able to afford all this heavy artillery.
     
  2. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    seriously last time i checked body armor was expensive

    not to mention the guns and ammo

    but he was a PhD student...probably had some parental bankroll going on

    either you're working and struggling to make ends meet like thousands of other PhD candidates (and not buying a shitload of guns) or you got parents hooking you up in situations like that
     
  3. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    http://www.lohud.com/usatoday/article/56444742?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|News|p


    AURORA, Colo. (USA TODAY) — University of Colorado officials disclosed Monday that massshooting suspect James Holmes was being paid $26,000 a year for his studies — money that could have financed the cache of firearms, ammunition and explosive devices found in his apartment.

    Holmes, 24, unexpectedly dropped out of an elite neuroscience graduate program June 10 after failing part of his first-year final exam. School officials say they were stunned to learn of his arrest Friday after a shooting rampage at a packed movie house a few miles from campus that left 12 dead and 58 injured. Police found Holmes' apartment near campus filled with booby-trapped explosive devices.

    At an initial court appearance Monday morning, Holmes had orange hair and a dazed demeanor, a contrast to the doctoral candidate who arrived at the university with stellar academic credentials and references. He's due back in court July 30, when he is expected to be charged with several counts of first-degree murder.

    "Everybody is in a state of shock," graduate school Dean Barry Shur said. "Everybody is upset. Who wouldn't be?"

    The program to which Holmes was accepted last fall admits just six students a year. Candidates have top grades and "near perfect" test scores, Shur said. They undergo a background check but no mental examination. "No program requires psychiatric evaluation, to the best of my knowledge,"

    Holmes came with "excellent academic credentials," Shur said at a press briefing Monday flanked by school Chancellor Don Elliman and Executive Vice Chancellor Lilly Marks.

    Shure and other administrators were at a loss to explain Holmes' motive, especially given Shur's comments that the faculty "tightly monitors" its neuroscience students.

    Doctoral students receive free tuition, and most get federally sponsored 12-month grants of $26,000, about $500 a week. Holmes, who was not employed, bought an assault rifle, shotgun, two semi-automatic handguns and 6,000 rounds of ammunition in the months leading up to what police called a methodically planned shooting spree.

    Officials say virtually no doctoral student has an outside job, given the intense nature of the program, which can take four or more years to complete.

    Holmes has been described as a shy, quiet loner. Shur did not characterize him, but said scientists often immerse themselves in academics and research. "Scientists are quirky people," he said. "There are a lot of intense characters."

    The preliminary exam, given orally by three professors, is designed to determine a student's basic knowledge and possible weaknesses, not weed anyone out, the officials said. The school would have provided remedial work and retesting if Holmes had sought help, Shur said. But after apparently failing June 7, he dropped out three days later. Campus Police Chief Doug Abraham said Holmes' school identification cards, which provide access to its facilities, were voided June 12.

    School officials would not say if faculty contacted Holmes after his departure, but Shur said he never received forms from Holmes with an explanation for dropping out. "My understanding is he partially completed the forms but did not fill in his reason for leaving the program," Shur said.

    School officials repeatedly deflected questions about Holmes' academic performance and details after he dropped out June 10, citing the ongoing criminal investigation into the case, but acknowledged it was unusual to quit.

    Over the weeks before Holmes left, 90 packages containing ammunition and other items were shipped to the campus. Elliman said there was no way of knowing the volume or content of the shipments, which went directly to Holmes or to a campus mailroom. "We have thousands of packages that come here every day," he said.

    The suburban Denver campus was on alert Monday, when a suspicious package was found at a professor's office and a second in a campus mailroom, school spokesman Daniel Meyers said. Both buildings were locked down but later reopened.

    Authorities are checking whether materials from campus labs were used in the explosive devices found in Holmes' apartment.
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    damn

    that motherfucker had it made

    but yeah colleges usually dont do psychiatric checks

    like my aunt said, you can be as crazy as you want and go to college

    :rolleyes:

    plus lots of gifted minds were also a little broken mentally, so you would be curtailing the fruits of genius
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Free school and 26k while you study? These spoiled motherfuckas just make me sick. People in Jamaica would literally kill for the opportunity
     
  6. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    from a good reputable university no less

    he really had it made, but it just sounds like all the pressure got to him. failing that exam and quitting the program..guess he felt like his life was meaningless

    :roll:

    i havent researched grad programs like that often, but I know a MD i see had his med schooling paid for by the USMC, along with allowing to serve as the chief medical officer within his battaltion or something. basically, if you're smart enough there are some great deals out there if you know where to look. Lots of med school graduates struggle in the civilian world during unpaid internships and other low paying shit until they reach residency, but the service really worked out for him. they give you somewhere to live and you have somewhere to practice.

    that's why it's very important that you stress success to your children, especially if you know they have serious academic potential.
     
  7. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So I was reading a 6'ft5" 245pd football player just accepted to State University(?) was sitting in another theater when a bullet pierced the wall and went into his neck. He's still alive though....

    Also that a week before the shooting, Holmes tried to apply for membership at an outdoor shooting range ....but the owner declined to accept him...because after talking to him he felt he was too weird and up to no good.
     
  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    lol shit..
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Shit wish I wasn't too old for the military. The thought of these loans is killing me. 30k in the hole and might need another 20 before I'm done ugh :mad:
     
  10. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    it's the price we gotta pay

    all i can say is look up stuff...

    as much as I hate to play the miniority/affirmative action card (id prefer to get where i need to be, in direct competition based on merit), i would look for stuff like that. if you got the grades to back up a campaign, why not at least try to get some free money?
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    yeah never looked for shit like that, always been able to afford it or parents could. Sucks being grown but you're right I should be looking into more scholarships and grants.
     
  12. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    even if ur parents help, id still look for some way to save

    a fool and his money will soon be departed, remember

    lol
     
  13. curleyblonde

    curleyblonde New Member

    I was afraid of this :(

    A US man allegedly told police that he had taken a loaded gun into a screening of The Dark Knight Rises but did not use it.

    Timothy Courtois, 49, allegedly made the confession to police after they reportedly found multiple firearms and press clippings about the Colorado movie massacre in his car when he was pulled over.

    Courtois, from Maine, was stopped on a highway on Sunday morning for allegedly speeding at 180km/h, TV station WABI reports.

    He then allegedly told police that he had hidden a loaded gun in his backpack while he saw the new Batman movie less than 24 hours after Friday's Colorado cinema massacre.

    He also allegedly told police he was driving to shoot his former employer.

    Police said they found an AK-47 assault rifle, four handguns and several boxes of ammunition in his car when they pulled him over.

    A raid on Courtois' home allegedly also uncovered a machine gun and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

    In Colorado today, accused gunman James Holmes alternated between appearing sleepy and wide-eyed during his first court appearance.

    Holmes did not speak during the ten-minute hearing and has been ordered to remain in jail.
     
  14. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    People must be losing their damn minds out here or something.

    I don't like my life, let me go kill innocent folks. W.T.F.
     
  15. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    If can be honest, after Heaths amazing acting in the last batman, I swore that I would never see another. I think that this tragedy will harm the film and I wouldn't see this movie at the cinema. My heart goes to all for their loss, from the helpless victims in the cinema to
    The parents and relatives that must face the aftermath of a person who inflicted so much pain
     
  16. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    the best thing for that fool is tie his legs to a HELICOPTER AND BEAT HIS ASS LIKE A PINATA
     
  17. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    People are losing their minds.

    A guy at school last night said that the Aurora, CO shooting wouldn't happen by us because all of the movie theaters have alarms on their outer doors, unlike the theater in CO (which boggles my mind and which was the first question I asked after learning the details of what happened).

    But anyway, alarms on outer doors won't protect people from bringing in backpacks (which to me is completely unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed) to a movie theater and hiding a gun or something else that's lethal in there.

    The world has gone crazy.
     
  18. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    What about big purses?
     
  20. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I've never owned a large purse, and rarely bring my purse into the theater, but I wouldn't be opposed to them searching bags, like they do at concerts.

    If it keeps people safer, then I'm all for it.

    Though people won't be able to sneak food in. LOL.
     

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