gwyneth paltrow and the N-word

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I think Jay and Kanye titling that song is somewhat mislabeling. Paris has always been a respite for many U.S Black entertainers and it doesn't even relate to the whole n/'a' concept to begin with. That's strictly a US phenom between Black males.
     
  2. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    maybe she's referring to the migrationist belief that Africa is the motherland, the birthplace of all civilization

    kinda like saying that in effect, we are in a way, all African

    maybe it's the whole tribal necklace/paint thing

    :rolleyes:
     
  3. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    That's from a campaign that many celebs participated in both black and white.

    http://www.keepachildalive.org/i_am_african/i_am_african.html
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    i do like the efforts of Sean Penn and Bono from U2

    i know Penn had some roles where he's dropped the N-bomb, but they were movies. The real-life actions of this guy and others is what should count. White or black, they're still doing more for charity than most people here are capable of.

    I think Gywneth is just a sweetheart who just had a slip-up. Not sure how she's supposed to identify where she is or what she's doing tho, with wording like that. Lots of blame still needs to go towards Jayz and Kanye for being some toolbags for wording shit like that.
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    There's are segments of society that deeply resents their close friendship. Whatever they can find to criticize it, they shall.
     
  6. ILoveYouWhiteWomen

    ILoveYouWhiteWomen New Member

    LOL

    Now that was freakin' funny-LOL:smt072
     
  7. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    They are charitable and I don't their efforts have gone unnoticed.

    My father met her and she is a sweetheart, but she used piss poor judgment in this case. Non-blacks need to tread lightly with that word and think before they speak, cause even though she, personally, didn't mean any harm, that's not how it's going to be perceived no matter how you serve it and that goes for everyone else who's not black.
     
  8. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's that offensive. Really. Unless we are trying to nit pick here.

    http://keepachildalive.org/media/campaigns/i-am-african/






    For the record what does everyone want white people to call.........call.........uhhhh.......Jay z's song. Please post the PC title. This is gonna be good. Kind of like calling Ceelo's fuck you ..........forget you like they do on some shows.
     
  9. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    [​IMG]'s in Paris seems too close, so I vote for, "Brothers in Paris"...
     
  10. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    In this case and many other cases, cause of the sensitive nature of that word, then no, don't say it if you're not black.

    If it were that easy, there wouldn't be any backlash.
     
  11. ILoveYouWhiteWomen

    ILoveYouWhiteWomen New Member

    Guess who just chimed in...

    Russell Simmons defends Paltrow's N-word tweet

    Hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons has defended actress Gwyneth Paltrow's use of the N-word on Twitter.

    The star was attending rappers Jay-Z and Kanye West's Watch The Throne show in Paris on Friday night (June 1) when she tweeted the name of their Top 10 hit single "**** in Paris," prompting a backlash.

    "**as in paris for real," she wrote, along with a photo of herself on stage with the two rappers. Her followers immediately began questioning the use of her word and the story but Simmons, one of the founders of hip-hop label Def Jam, has since urged fans to brush the controversy off, arguing that the success of the song should transcend political correctness.

    "The tweet she sent has since angered some in the black community, since she used the n-word. But when I saw it, it didn’t faze me - not even one bit," Simmons wrote on Global Grind. "I have to throw my hand up and stand up for Gwyneth. I know her intentions were not to be offensive ... she was just proud of her friend, Jay-Z. My words are in defense of her.

    "There is something truly inspiring about black culture and black music, hip-hop culture and hip-hop music. No matter what colour skin you might have, there is an overriding good effect that this music has on you. It is contagious," he continued. "Having any Hollywood starlet at your concert was unimaginable, and having her quote your lyrics as a badge of honor that she was hanging out with you, you never would have dreamed of that – until your poetry hit the market and changed the world.

    "So, for Gwyneth to tweet out her excitement about hip-hop taking over the planet is a good thing. She didn’t mean any harm, she just was trying to ball so hard, and like Jay-Z says, 'motherf***ers can’t fine' her."


    What the Hell? Isn't it interesting that when a white celebrity screws up in the press that they try to get a Black person to redeem them?

    Yeah the token Black Eraser they feel works every time.:smt073
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    In 1969 , John Lennon put out a song. Here he is answering to it.

    He also performs it.


    [YOUTUBE]S5lMxWWK218[/YOUTUBE]
     
  13. ILoveYouWhiteWomen

    ILoveYouWhiteWomen New Member

    Hmm!

    If John Lennon felt he had the right to say the N-word then why did he not go out on the streets and when he met any black people on the street use the word with them? or when he met any black gang member use the word as well?:smt017

    I guess his "rights" were only for TV Land at the time.

    Hmm, just another example of trying to use the Token Black Eraser again I see especially when he quotes what a prominent black man says about the N-word in the video. Yeah-like that somehow makes it right.

    Funny, wasn't he also the one along with the other members of the Beetles who said that he and the Beetles were also greater than Jesus Christ which subsequently led to all their records being burnt and destroyed at the time.

    Way to go John Lennon-What a way to be really "creative" again.:smt078
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2012
  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    When I first heard the song listening to his album years later, I was in Australia and immune to the word's "power" having not grown up with it (barring watching Roots as a little girl with my family where I came to learn of it). I distinctly remember relating to the woman's aspect of the words only, how men want us to bear their kids and blame us when the body changes, etc. It's an eye-opener song, but today, I cringe when I hear him say the n-word, having lived here and getting a better understanding of the word's meaning.
    The advent of the affectionate version can complicate feelings because I truly feel when BM who do use it say it to another, they are as far removed from the original meaning as can be. It's a label, an address to his friend or even in anger at another, but it never ever means what the origins of the word it's derived from means.
    And yet, I can see and totally agree with someone who dissents of all usage of the word. It's a complex subjective phenon and I don't even know if there is a right or wrong answer/solution.
     
  15. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    I don't know why some of the most ignorant muthafuckas are like, IN LOVE, with the N-word.
    It's like these dumb assholes don't even know what it means to truly be militant or revolutionary, so they take the easy way out and fake being controversial by using racial epithets and trying to make them non threatening.

    Gwyneth Paltrow is stupid. Jay-Z is stupid. Kanye is stupid.

    No Black man together with his shit is going to give White people, or anyone for that matter, a get-out-of-jail free card to use the word 'nigger'.

    If you have the N-word in the title of a song, you're giving stupid ass morons PERMISSION to say....nigga nigga nigga etc.

    I'm tired of Jay Z and his insignificant ass. His music is NOT important and he's one of the most overrated MCs out here.

    I dunno, but just from what I've read and seen from historical footage, 'down' White people and REAL Black folk were about IT more in the 1960s and '70s. If you were down with the cause, you didn't think it was cute or progressive for anyone to use the N-word, especially a lily white actress like Ms. Paltrow.

    Yeah it's just a word, but it's a word loaded with history. No matter their intent, whenever a WHite person says the N-word, all I hear is a stupid dumb ass muthafucka. Like to the bone.

    Jay Z is a pimp. And I can't wait to read about the first time someone calls his beloved Blue Ivy a stupid ass trick/ho'/byiatch.

    If you're Black and a White person is dropping N-bombs very casually in your presence, they straight up don't respect you.

    The fact that Gwyneth Paltrow didn't have enough God given common sense to censor herself tells me this bitch is out to lunch.

    Typical. THe bitch did name her child after a piece of fruit.:smt120
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Ummm its a fucking song not a kkk rally. Context people context. If you cant tell the difference between an insult and a song I feel for you. Thats one hell of a chip to carry my friend.
    And theres a huge difference between singing along to a song and actually being called nigger.
    How much power does that fucking word get to have. Like I said if you people want a word to be upset about why not motherfucker. Worlds more insulting and historically painful

     
  17. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    you know we got some braindead mothafuckas around here
     
  18. ILoveYouWhiteWomen

    ILoveYouWhiteWomen New Member

    Yeah Bro!

    If she named her white kid after a piece of fruit-I guess that makes her a Fruitcake-LOL:drinkers:
     
  19. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    All she said was "niggas". No big deal
     
  20. ILoveYouWhiteWomen

    ILoveYouWhiteWomen New Member

    Its not just a song it is a license

    One moment-I agree it is a song and I do not have a chip on my shoulders but..if people are not supposed to carry a "chip" on their shoulders about this then let EVERYONE start using it-is that what we want?

    However in reality it is a more than a song it is a LICENSE. This is what some don't get!

    The two teen girls down in Florida who spoke out against their black school mates did so out of fun but one of the things they said in their Youtube video was that they heard Chris Rock use the N-word in one of his shows and they felt it was "alright" to use it in an attempt to lash out against their fellow classmates who were black.

    Why did they feel the Freedom to use it? Because they heard someone use it that made them feel they had the right to use it which was part of their ridicule against Black students at their own school.

    Again, this is more than just about pain alone and history associated with that pain and all of the psychological attempts to tell others to "move forward"

    This is about A LICENSE...that gives permission to some that they should not have in the first place which when used WILL result in being insulted and CAN result in Pain.

    It is a fact that no psychological meanderings and twisting can change.
    :smt073
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2012

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