What the Skinny think about the fat...It's ok to be fat!!

Discussion in 'In the News' started by chocolatecream4u, May 31, 2012.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Fair and balanced?...Not.

    Just wondering why you chose to compare:

    skinny person (height weight proportioned not anorexic)
    vs
    obese people (35lbs or more over weight)


    Wouldn't the LOGICAL and unbiased comparison be:

    skinny person (35lbs or more under weight)
    vs
    obese people (35lbs or more over weight)
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    No because in the context that the op used he gave the imptession that skinny was normal weight not sickly anorexic skinny. Good try though.
    All of you who keep fighting in this thread woyld it be easier for you if everyobe just said skinny people are just as unhealthy as fat people. Or its ok to be fat all the medical proof about what it does to the body is propaganda?
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Um, it was my first post in here, Mr Top poster (again). So miss me with the "ALL OF YOU fighting in this thread".... Good try though.

    I don't CARE what "impression" he gave YOU, in fact he even said skinny can be as unhealthy as fat.
    Honestly, you only see what you want to.

    So your weight comparison is a BIG FAIL. You owe a years pay. Pay up.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    He said could be not that he was comparing anorexic to far. Again good failed attempt.
    You and I can go to central park and pick 100 fat people at random and 100 skinny people at random then we can talk about paying up once the medical rwsults are in.
    I meant you in the general sense not the personal
     
  5. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    That's what I was sayin'.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Did you actually read his original post?
     
  7. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    We all did. But you're taking the Fox News approach.

     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Really? So you took from his original post that he meant obese vs anorexic and not obese vs what fat people commonly call normal sized people ie skinny?
    Ok fair enough
     
  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Hilarious. I also call it the TDK googles effect. We all saw the OP said:

    "For some odd strange reason skinny folks think fat folks don't feel good about themselves....obesity can be unhealthy so can skinny.....I know a lot of fat healthy people more healthy than the skinny.
    "

    However, TDK in his quest to bitch about things he knows little about, filters that to mean the OP's skinny = height weight proportioned, not anorexic, and the OP's fat = obese 35lbs or MORE over weight.
    And he's in school?? LMAO @ his fuzzy math. :rolleyes:

     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Your reading comp is way off. If you need me to break it down for you line by line let me know boo boo. Keep studying for that GED youll get it one day little buddy.
     
  11. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Lol

    Fuck what you heard, it's what you hearin
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yea, let me see you break it down, lmao. Show us how TDK arrives at the skinny example to be normal proportioned, but the over weight example is magically 35lbs or more obese. I'll wait.
     
  13. Alinoa

    Alinoa New Member

    This is a little bit O/T, but I wanted to post it anyway. It might give a clue as to why some women get so offended when this subject is brought up. We are basically told on a daily basis that we aren't good enough ever no matter whether we are skinny, fat, or in between. Our standards are held at a level we couldn't meet without suffering major illness to achieve. That's really fucked up.


    From psychcentral:

    Why women hate their bodies
    Women’s National Health Week, an annual awareness event dedicated to all issues related to women’s health, was May 13-19 this year.

    In honor of this year’s message, “It’s your time,” I want to draw attention to the link between how we see ourselves and how we treat our bodies.

    Currently, 80 percent of women in the U.S. are dissatisfied with their appearance. And more than 10 million are suffering from eating disorders.

    So the question I have to ask, Why all the self-hatred?


    Body Image and the Media
    Historically, the ideal female body was strong and full-figured, as seen in icons such as Marilyn Monroe. Yet even as early as the 1800s, when painful, health-impairing corsets were used to accentuate the breasts, hips and buttocks, women were expected to strive for a specific ideal of beauty.

    In the 1900s, the American public became more consumed with the thin, boyish physique, viewing full-figured women as indulgent and lacking in self-control – a trend that grew exponentially by the end of the century.

    In modern times, we’ve witnessed a “thin at all costs” movement that now defines Western culture. The U.S. has the highest rates of obesity and eating disorders in the world. As a melting pot of people from all backgrounds, there is no genetic reason that explains this increased vulnerability to weight, body and food issues. Instead, we have to look at the messages our society sends about how we value our citizens.
    From a young age, women aspire to Barbie-like measurements that are physiologically impossible without surgery and/or starvation:

    According to the National Eating Disorders Association, 42 percent of first- to third-grade girls want to lose weight, and 81 percent of 10-year-olds are afraid of being fat.
    According to a study in Pediatrics, about two-thirds of girls in the 5th to 12th grades said that magazine images influence their vision of an ideal body, and about half of the girls said the images made them want to lose weight.
    By adolescence, studies show that young people are receiving an estimated 5,260 “attractiveness messages” per year from network television commercials alone.
    According to Teen magazine, 35 percent of girls ages 6 to 12 have been on at least one diet, and 50 to 70 percent of normal-weight girls think they are overweight.
    Over time, models have gone from thin to emaciated, which has been mirrored by a growing problem of eating disorders and body image dissatisfaction. In 1975 most models weighed 8 percent less than the average woman; today they weigh 23 percent less. Compared to the Playboy centerfolds and Miss America winners from the 1950s, at least one-quarter of present-day icons meet the weight criteria for anorexia. Meanwhile, the average woman’s weight has increased.

    Today, the media is a far more powerful influence than ever before, sometimes taking precedence over friends, family or other real women. Whereas women used to look at role models who were average-sized, women are now comparing themselves with images (some of which are merely computerized conglomerations of body parts) that are unrealistically thin. In the old days, a young girl grew up wanting to look like her mother or best friend. Now she wants to look like Angelina Jolie.

    Herein lies the real damage. The more an individual is exposed to the media, the more he or she believes it is reflective of the real world. What most people still don’t realize is that the majority of the pictures they see in magazines are altered in some way and that looking like their role models is physically impossible. It is a setup for self-hatred.

    Genetics and Thin-Heritance
    As a result of both genetic and environmental factors, body image issues and eating disorder behaviors may be passed down from generation to generation. This concept, recently labeled “thin-heritance,” explores how a mother’s views about food, dieting practices, and negative attitudes and comments about her own body or her child’s appearance increase her children’s risk for poor body image and eating disorders.

    Cultural Messages
    Body image also stems from cultural messages. For example, in Polynesian culture, bigger once meant being healthier and stronger. In a landmark 1998 study of girls in Fiji, Harvard researchers demonstrated how the introduction of television contributed to dramatic increases in eating disorders over a three-year period. In a culture that once valued a healthy, robust physique, girls began viewing themselves as fat, going on diets and feeling depressed about the way they looked, all in an effort to look more like the Western women they saw on shows like the original “Beverly Hills 90210.”

    After three years, 74 percent of Fijian teenage girls described themselves as too fat. Those who watched TV three or more nights a week were 30 percent more likely to go on a diet than their peers who watched less TV. Being called “skinny” went from a cultural insult to a worthy life goal.

    Similarly, African-American culture is beginning to see a shift. While there used to be greater acceptance of women who were full-figured, now the younger generations are buying into the thin ideal, and we’re seeing famous African-American singers and actresses advertising dramatic weight losses.

    Relationships
    In all relationships, whether a boyfriend, spouse, peer, coworker, sibling or parent, people look for acceptance and validation. When they receive criticism, rejection or judgment instead, they are at increased risk of a number of mental health issues, including poor body image and eating disorders. Troubling behaviors range from a dirty look when taking a second helping of food at the dinner table to persistent weight-related bullying by one’s peers. All of these exchanges, no matter how subtle, can have a lasting impact.

    A Glimmer of Hope
    Amidst all of the negative media messages, there have been a few glimmers of hope in the past decade:

    In an effort to become ambassadors for the message of healthy body image, Voguerecently announced that it would no longer feature models under age 16 or those who appear to have an eating disorder.
    Fashion organizations in Spain and Italy have specified a minimum healthy body mass index for models.
    Israel’s government recently passed a law that requires a healthy body mass index for models as well as full disclosure if fashion media and advertising use Photoshop to change a model’s figure.
    Dove has been leading “real beauty” empowerment campaigns and taking a stand against Photoshopping for almost a decade.
    In 2002, actress Jamie Lee Curtis posed for a magazine both “glammed up” and in “real life” fashion to bring awareness to the way media images are digitally altered.
    Social media websites such as Facebook, Tumblr and Pinterest are increasingly banning pro-anorexia and pro-bulimia messages. At the same time, there are a growing number of websites dedicated to healthy portrayals of real women, including the I Am That Girl blog.
    In spite of these trailblazing changes, a lot of progress has yet to be made. The majority of magazines and other media have not replaced unrealistic images with normal, average-sized people. Although awareness is growing, parents and other authority figures can do more to model healthy self-image and diet, limit exposure to media, openly talk about media messages and share daily family meals. What we need is a broad-scale cultural shift that will only come about when we start demanding it.
     
  14. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    I know right? I think he does not understand the meaning of the word "proportioned". If you are a well-proportioned individual, it means that your weight is distributed evenly over your whole body - that is not going to, as Bliss said, "magically" change the second a person gains 35 lbs. The term "height weight proportioned" means that a person ratios (hip to waist, shoulders to hips, leg length vs. torso length) all fall into the scientific ratio of what is seen as most attractive. Yes, there is a science to it - it's called the "golden ratio" and can be seen in patterns in nature, in man-built architecture, etc. The human face is judged for beauty based on this ratio, which has at its heart symmetry and balance.

    "Desired weight" is a trend that fluctuates over the decades and is influenced by external (manipulated) forces such as the media...it can also be influenced by what is going on at the time (war, depression, economic boom, the collective "mood" of the country). The thin image of today is historically a bit of an anomaly. It has also been proven time and time again that sexually and aesthetically, men generally want their women to have some curves and meat on their bones, to look "womanly". When a woman loses an eccess of weight, she loses the body fat distribution that makes her look feminine and starts to look more androgynous.

    This look might appeal to the predominantly gay fashion designers who make a lot of the clothes seen in magazines, and has slowly filtered out to be seen as "desirable" by straight men as well (that is, straight men who are conscious of being trendy and having a woman as some sort of measure of his financial success)...

    Many straight men are completely repressed sexually because they ignore their own desires in favor of what is trendy/acceptable to his peers. Get a man who likes a curvier woman though, and you will see someone who really appreciates women and is much better in bed... IMHO.
     
  15. Stheno

    Stheno New Member

    lol now lets bash the thin to make everyone feel better :rolleyes:
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    When the fuck have you ever been honest lol
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Ok dummy if you insist:
    For some odd strange reason skinny folks think fat folks don't feel good about themselves,This is only the opinion of this one person,being a person that has been fat majority of my childhood life i never felt out of place,or ever had any bouts with self esteem, or considered unhealthy,the name calling such "fat ass" and stuff like that would draw a bloody nose for the name caller but where does this person get that fat folks don't feel good about themselves obesity can be unhealthy so can skinny.....I know a lot of fat healthy people more healthy than the skinny... What is your opinions on fat/obese being considered unhealthy or not feeling good about themselves?? check out this link......http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/hea...iref=allsearch


    See the bolded part, the part you also bolded. The poster referred to fat people as obese by citing obesity which is known to be 35lbs or more over weight and if you actually bothered to watch the fucking video he posted you'd see two sumo bitches trying to promote being fat and healthy.I would think its pretty clear those are his examples of fat people and they are clearly obese. Well to those who can actually see out of both eyes and think clearly. They are doing themselves and other big people a gross disservice. Yeah just keep on eating 3000 calories a day while only burning 300. That means you can eat another 3000 since you worked out right lol.

    And even if the OP didn't say skinny was height weight proportioned that's a notorious reference for people who are. We often see huge women call anyone who is under a size 12 a fricking "skinny minnie". Also in the OP's vernacular its easy for me deduce that skinny means normal since the sickly people you guys keep referring aren't known for messing with other people since they themselves have an eating disorder as well. So keep on pretending like you don't have a clue.... shit maybe you're not pretending?:confused:
     
  18. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    wow it's quite emotional in here, if you don't all watch it you'll end up getting your periods together :p
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Mine's due this week. Happy another sappy convo with my chick and I feel the cramps coming on lol
     
  20. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    *groan*

    First, who are you calling a dummy, you silly jackass.

    For the majority of CC4U’s post he said fat, skinny, fat, skinny - he said fat/obese once, and you fucking ran with it and added some phantom “35pds or more” crap, which is why I called your ass out.

    Now let me school you here - obesity is clinically defined as having a BMI of over 30. Therefore, a person’s weight doesn’t define their obesity, their BMI does, their fat to muscle ratio does. I can tell your dumb ass can’t comprehend that people can be 35lbs 'over' and have a lower fat to muscle ratio. In fact, even a BMI isn’t the full picture if someone is obese or not. Where your weight is distributed, your water, fat and muscle density - all of it determines it, not some stupid 35lbs “over” Over what? Tell me, are you fat, kid? Cause unless your BMI is under 25, then u are. You better get a clue and catch up, dummy!

    I did watch the video from the onset and I’ll bet you another year’s pay the fat chick giving the exercise classes works out more regularly than your 24/7, 20,000 argue posting ass, does.


    Where the heck do you get that 'skinny is a notorious reference for the weight proportioned', let alone the healthy? Slim perhaps, but skinny? :confused:

    Fat women calling under size 12 'skinnie minnies' you say? Please. What I see is a hypocritical fat man like you call women over a size 12 “fucking obese fat asses“

    Do you even understand how anorexics think? They have a distorted fear of food and putting on weight. Half of them are terrified to even be near fat people, Besides, you don’t have to be sickly to dislike overweight people. Skinny people tease fat people all the time. Hell you’re fat and you tease even plump women, let alone fat ones. Oh the irony there.

    Again, the OP said he’s been overweight and very healthy. He said he has known overweight people who are healthy and that skinny doesn’t = health. Capish? You’re so clueless that you can’t comprehend a person can be 'technically' over weight at 230 but have muscle and fat, while your fat bum is 200lbs at your 5ft 7 height or whatever the hell you are, and you are nothing but unhealthy pure lard.

    So again, can you SHOW ME where he said skinny is normal and healthy, and fat was 35pds or more over weight. You can’t, so shut it.
     

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