What the Skinny think about the fat...It's ok to be fat!!

[chocolatecream4u]

For some odd strange reason skinny folks think fat folks don't feel good about themselves,This is only the opinion of this one person,being a person that has been fat majority of my childhood life i never felt out of place,or ever had any bouts with self esteem, or considered unhealthy,the name calling such "fat ass" and stuff like that would draw a bloody nose for the name caller but where does this person get that fat folks don't feel good about themselves obesity can be unhealthy so can skinny.....I know a lot of fat healthy people more healthy than the skinny... What is your opinions on fat/obese being considered unhealthy or not feeling good about themselves?? check out this link......

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2012/05/30/drew-bts-okay-to-be-fat-debate.cnn?iref=allsearch

 

[Iggy]

Being fat isn't a good thing. If you're fat, you're unhealthy period. I don't like how our ultra PC society is trying to keep spinning this issue.

Obesity is a HUGE problem in this country.

 

[Morning Star]

No one's immune to being unhealthy, regardless of body type. You can be skinny and still suffer from unhealthy conditions, if you're morbidly obese (not to be confused with fat), you are unhealthy. Even if you're some six foot two muscle head, you can still get horrible health problems like hernias and muscle dystrophy.

And this isn't a PC thing. This is just collective scientific information gathered over the years. Nothing PC about it at all. But then again, the irony is that conservative libertarians hate the idea of being told what to do.

Being fat isn't a good thing. If you're fat, you're unhealthy period. I don't like how our ultra PC society is trying to keep spinning this issue.

Obesity is a HUGE problem in this country.

 

[The Dark King]

No one's immune to being unhealthy, regardless of body type. You can be skinny and still suffer from unhealthy conditions, if you're morbidly obese (not to be confused with fat), you are unhealthy. Even if you're some six foot two muscle head, you can still get horrible health problems like hernias and muscle dystrophy.

And this isn't a PC thing. This is just collective scientific information gathered over the years. Nothing PC about it at all. But then again, the irony is that conservative libertarians hate the idea of being told what to do.

Pick a hundred skinny (height weight propoetioned not anorexic) and a hundred obese people (35lbs or more over weight) at random and I'll bet a years pay the second group has a bigger group of unhealthy people. The risk factors with obesity are through the roof.

 

[chocolatecream4u]

Being fat isn't a good thing. If you're fat, you're unhealthy period. I don't like how our ultra PC society is trying to keep spinning this issue.

Obesity is a HUGE problem in this country.

Not true... you can be fat and healthy... now morbidly obese that is unhealthy,i was fat but healthy no diabetes,no hyertension etc.,i was pretty healthy,better than what i am now.I do agree obsesity is a problem,fat becomes a problem when it turn into laziness,grossly over eating and turning that fat into obsesity.

 

[Morning Star]

It's a bit of an unfair assessment. Apply the BMI average to both groups and the risk factors of being in danger are just as much. Both extremes are unhealthy, especially with skinny people believing that eating one little extra pea makes them fatter.

Pick a hundred skinny (height weight propoetioned not anorexic) and a hundred obese people (35lbs or more over weight) at random and I'll bet a years pay the second group has a bigger group of unhealthy people. The risk factors with obesity are through the roof.

Exactly.

there are penty thin people that are out of shape dude. WAKE UP

 

[chocolatecream4u]

ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS/SHOULD OBSESE BE CONSIDERED A CONDITION??

I started a thread regarding the opinions of fat being healthy or unhealthy,and within that thread obese came about which my opinion fat and obsese is different,i stated i was fat and healthy,no diabetes,hypertension,threating strokes or anything of that nature,i do feel you can be fat and healthy,when you condition yourself,by staying active,and i feel you become obese from your fat not being conditioned over eating and laziness,and now that a person has went from fat, inactive to obsesed now America wants to call it a condition..people are getting paychecks for being inactive overeating and considered obsesed..My opinion ....That's not right.....What's your opinion?

 

[The Dark King]

It's a bit of an unfair assessment. Apply the BMI average to both groups and the risk factors of being in danger are just as much. Both extremes are unhealthy, especially with skinny people believing that eating one little extra pea makes them fatter.



Exactly.

Dude reread my example skinny (height proportioned) vs obese. A big problem within our health care system isnt people happen to be thin and sick its obesity which leads to so many other health problems. Its misinformation to psi t the picture that being thin gives you the same health risks as obesity and even if it did whats the ever present problem in this country right now

 

[Morning Star]

South Carolina has a program, government-sponsored, where people who are obese can go to the gym for free in order to curb some of the insurance cost in the healthcare system. I don't have all the details, but it looks like a reasonable plan.

As for obesity being a condition? Sure, it is! However, there is something you can do about it and that's maintaining an active lifestyle. Very seldom would there be exceptions, but it would require some biological deformities within the body.

 

[Morning Star]

Like I said, if you're going to factor in two extremes, then you'll have to consider the BMI and BVI tests equally to both areas. Even those tests are hard to read as well since it doesn't include overly muscular people or individuals with dwarf syndrome.

I agree obesity is a problem, but we're too fixated on one area of interest and not as a whole. You weren't talking about the healthcare in your previous post, so let's maintain consistency here for the sake of argument.

Dude reread my example skinny (height proportioned) vs obese. A big problem within our health care system isnt people happen to be thin and sick its obesity which leads to so many other health problems. Its misinformation to psi t the picture that being thin gives you the same health risks as obesity and even if it did whats the ever present problem in this country right now

 

[chocolatecream4u]

South Carolina has a program, government-sponsored, where people who are obese can go to the gym for free in order to curb some of the insurance cost in the healthcare system. I don't have all the details, but it looks like a reasonable plan.

As for obesity being a condition? Sure, it is! However, there is something you can do about it and that's maintaining an active lifestyle. Very seldom would there be exceptions, but it would require some biological deformities within the body.

How is it a condtion when you go from one stage to another that can be prevented why should a person recieve funds for being obese they become inactive and feel someone else should take care of them that's not right. example of a condition renal failure that's a condition,and sometimes that's due to obesity.

 

[Morning Star]

I actually agree that an obese person shouldn't receive funds. But then again, we can apply that logic to people who have brain aneurysms or mentally retarded. If you're talking about being capable of contributing to society, then disabilities or conditions of any kinds would have very little weight.

An obese person has too much body fat (not the same as being overweight), so it would be much more difficult for the person to be mobile and be able to do things that people can normally do. But rather complain about it, why not offer up solutions instead of screaming to get them off their asses? Plus, there are biological factors included which could cause a person to not being able to lose weight.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0004552/

How is it a condtion when you go from one stage to another that can be prevented why should a person recieve funds for being obese they become inactive and feel someone else should take care of them that's not right. example of a condition renal failure that's a condition,and sometimes that's due to obesity.

 

[Iggy]

there are penty thin people that are out of shape dude. WAKE UP

I realize this.

But at the same time, I get annoyed with all of these fat fucks priding themselves on being "plus sized". Its fuckin ridiculous. We need to start promoting living a healthy lifestyle in this country. The rest of the world laughs at us for how many ffat people we have in this country.

 

[Iggy]

There is NOTHING good that comes from being fat or overweight


If science doesn't lie, then obesity is unhealthy, expensive and it's a rapidly growing problem. A study by the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey found that over 65% of Americans are overweight or obese. As the figures rise, so do the associated health problems and accompanying medical costs, estimated to be at nearly $150 billion annually in the U.S. With more than 15% of American children currently obese, it's not going to stop anytime soon.




http://www.askmen.com/sports/health_150/160_mens_health.html

 

[Jase]

Most Americans aren't in shape or even all that healthy. Whether they're fat, obese, at a normal weight, or skinny. And being overweight doesn't necessarily mean you're all that unhealthy. While I think it's somewhat ridiculous to embrace being overweight/obese, I think the fat shaming and beauty standards that we hold people (especially women to) are just as nonsensical. Especially with the sheer amount of cheap/easy access to cheap, fatty, fast foods in this country. I always found it strange how in America people seem to show more tolerance for smokers than they do people who are overweight/obese.

 

[Iggy]

I always found it strange how in America people seem to show more tolerance for smokers than they do people who are overweight/obese.

Bwhaha are you fuckin kidding me??? Smokers are pretty much banned from smoking in every restaurant or bar in this country.
Keep in mind I don't smoke(absolutely hate it) but to say that there is more tolerance for smokers is just plain untrue.

 

[Jase]

Bwhaha are you fuckin kidding me??? Smokers are pretty much banned from every place on the face of the Earth.

They might be banned in certain areas depending on the state laws but there's not much of a social stigma against them. Overweight/obese individuals catch a hell of a lot more flack in everyday life than your average smoker.

 

[Morning Star]

With the tobacco industry, it's about money. And if people buy cigarettes, it's more money for them, hence the level of tolerance.

They might be banned in certain areas depending on the state laws but there's not much of a social stigma against them. Overweight/obese individuals catch a hell of a lot more flack in everyday life than your average smoker.

 

[Jase]

With the tobacco industry, it's about money. And if people buy cigarettes, it's more money for them, hence the level of tolerance.

And cigarettes/tobacco has been around for centuries. Where as obese/overweight individuals, at least in the numbers you see today, is a relatively new phenomenon.

 

[Morning Star]

Yes, but which one actually "benefits" the country? If you're talking businesses, then the tobacco industry hold greater weight. Plus, you have to factor in lobbying groups for these big corporations. They may have lost some battles in allowing people to smoke, but they are still up and running and making a profit.

And cigarettes/tobacco has been around for centuries. Where as obese/overweight individuals, at least in the numbers you see today, is a relatively new phenomenon.