Wow, so many thoughts on this...where to start? Personally, i definitely think its a regional thing. I live in one of the worst cities in the world for dating (NYC) and i've always joked for years that shows like Sex and The City screwed up New York women for a good generation or two. Every professional woman here thinks they are SJP and looking for their own Mr.Big. Except, they're not. New York has the largest collection of 5's and 6's who think they're deserving of 10's than anywhere else in the world. That in itself makes dating hard here. Their neurotic-ness has put some unbelievable expectations on men. A blue collar guy isn't considered attractive to them even though he has a steady job and benefits. I remember a buddy of mine was telling a story the other day about some women he overheard the other day at lunch joking about how they only date men who have an IRA or at least a six digit salary. All i could do was shake my head. You know why marriage is so fucked in this country? Because no one is willing to work together to make anything anymore. It has to come ready made and ready to ship out. I'm not absolving men at all as to why the state of most relationships today is a tragedy of super selfish proportions but women who "refuse to settle" are gonna keep waiting for that Mr. America float to show up and find that the whole parade has passed them by.
Truthfully in this area it happens a lot the only draw back is you have a bunch of women bitter because a friend they deem lesser than them gets a "Mr. Big" type(some dude on Wall St or who comes from money). They spend a lot of time wondering why they can't go on really nice vacations to places like Dubai or Turks and Cacos on some one elses dime even though many of them can afford to pay for themselves. Its a city wide epidemic. Dude was not lying when he said Sex and The City really fucked up the game for a generation or two. Not to mention the part about a bunch of 5s and 6s who think they're 10s, couldn't have phrased it better myself. The problem with places like NY is that there is an unbelievably large number of good looking people the bigger problem is: 1. Finding people with options who are truly willing to commit (a lot of cheating) 2. People who greatly over estimate their value. Its like going to an Ivy League school and being around a bunch of rich kids. Hanging out with them and having access to their lifestyle might delude you into believing that its your lifestyle too. You forget you have to work up to that level because you weren't born into that shit like they were. Let me also add I have to disagree on one thing. NY is great for dating but horrible for anything long term. Love rarely if ever exists in a place that's mostly about money and entertainment.
You just supported my whole point with that last sentence. You are not where you want to be or think you should be physically and/or financially, yet your girl finds you desirable in spite of that. Your physical appearance and the size of your bank account are not her only priorities. A rarity in NY, perhaps, but you now know firsthand that we look for a man that we connect with on more than one or two levels. And men, if they're honest, will say the same thing. If a man wants a serious relationship, I have to think he will want more than someone whose beauty only goes skin deep.
Ches while I appreciate your sentiment a single instance not a trend does it make. Am I grateful and happy? Yes but I recognize this is far from the norm. Also I think we clatified earlier that the YT posters theories were more about single younger without kids. Women of ypur experience tend not to think that way.
I believe that post should be addressed to Panino, since he "insists" it does. (but never typed it in his posts). My 'yeah I noticed" and sarcasm smiley was, well sarcasm. Now why pray-tell would I want to make a thread like this one? I feel?? If you notice, we women have NOT been saying we pander to men - what I KEEP seeing from YOU however, is MEN PANDER to women. See the difference? Of course not.
u are rite on point. a lot of females have taken on that TV shit and believed it....a lot of men have gone way to0 far on the ends of the spectrum with that metrosexual bullshit or being a gangster rapper shit
Correct. And you know what else? Our girlfriends too. If you knew the heartache I and my girls have gone through for/over men, you wouldn't type what you all have been. And I know I don't speak alone. We don't expect our men to be these knights on horses. We meet our men halfway when we can, we have their backs, we love them and want to be loved by them. Don't let SITC or sitcoms fool you. That's NOT real life.
Is this about weight and looks again and about how average looking women say they are not picky yet want tall men but get mad when average men say they want women who have tight bodies? OH SNAP!!