Are white women more open in certain countries?

Discussion in 'The International Perspective' started by Animal, May 1, 2012.

  1. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Well, something you are doing is coming off wrong. Do you ever go out with other friends who might critique your approach or "game"? Ask them ........why do you think the ladies don't seem to hit it off with me. Be ready for criticism if it's coming. Better to hear it, keep an open mind and change something if it needs it.
     
  2. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Animal,I learn something every day. I thought Monreal is the place for brothers to meet WW there. Canadian women do have some of that American WW attitude but,since you are going to stay a while you may have some who got that European flavor.
     
  3. jordanz

    jordanz Restricted

    Well how about improving yourself so that women are attracted?
     
  4. jordanz

    jordanz Restricted

    Because your posts dont exude confidence. You've traveled to all these countries,which alone puts you above what most brothas can do, yet you say nothing happens.

    You also have not answered questions about you personal style hobbies etc. If you come across feeling sorry for yourself online I can only wonder how you are perceived by these ladies in person.

    My guess is that you are extremely shy and or not physically /mentally attractive to these women. The good news is you can change all that , but you have to be honest with yourself first.
     
  5. Animal

    Animal New Member

    Oh yeah, I meant to answer all of your questions from before but I got carried away. In terms of me:

    I'm a student and I usually work part time as a waiter. I have a 96 toyota corolla, and no it's not that attractive. I'm a clean cut guy but I like to have fun and hang out/socialize with people. I'm very practical and usually don't take risks. Yes I can hold a good conversation with people in general. I am 175 lbs, 6'2 (tall and thin). I have a dry sense of humor. Some people would consider me to be a geek/dork, although I resent those labels and don't consider myself as such.

    In terms of dress, I don't spend a whole lot on clothes. I do have a few nice shirts, but in general I don't value a sense of fashion that much. I buy my clothes from target, ross, maybe value village, etc. As long as it fits, looks nice, and is cheap, it's mine.

    My personal hobbies/interests are watching MMA, playing video games, bike riding, traveling, reading, watching movies, shows, listening to hip hop, and social/global issues.

    Um, if I came across as feeling sorry for myself/not confident, that wasn't the intent. I was simply being honest about the state of my dating life. I don't have the best luck with women. I like and feel good about myself. I'm sure of myself. I smile. I make eye contact with people. I don't walk with my head down. I am confident. I feel like when people say women want a man with confidence, basically they want a superman alpha male with no emotional issues whatsoever. In the dating world, women are allowed and expected to be emotional, but when a man is, he is labeled not confident, insecure, or overly sensitive.

    In terms of "improving myself" or changing, I like and am satisfied with how I am personally so I'm not gonna change. Also I don't like how dating is today and all the complex rules and norms you have to supposedly learn and follow to be succesful with women. As I said I'm very practical and I believe dating shouldn't be that complicated. It is what is, and if I never get a woman, then whatever life goes on. But I don't want to compromise my character or do something I otherwise wouldn't just to make a few women go "ooooohhhhh". I don't see that as an improvement. I don't like the concept of "game" and how the burden of initiating/escalating dating/sexual relations is on the man. I think the dating game in general is really superficial and I'm just not that kind of person. Plus I also hear that women like to "test" and "play games" just to see how you react and if you can "handle" it. I see that as unethical. I'm not really down with somebody "testing" me.

    But yes I am shy. In terms of how attractive I am, I think I've learned the last few years why a lot of women don't find me attractive (or at least the ones I'm attracted to), and I did consider "changing" last fall, but obviously that didn't last long and I just couldn't help staying true to myself.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2012
  6. rdubya86

    rdubya86 New Member

    Throw all that "pick up" stuff out of the window

    That pick up stuff never seems to workout. What you need brother is to get in where you fit in ~ find your niche, and make friends who are women. Honestly what works for me is not trying to pick up on women, just being cool and a friendly figure works. Being friends with women is the key if you want to find solid sound relationships. I find most of that pick up garbage to be objectifying towards women, I find that not objectifying and being pure in relating works best. You win a lot more bees with honey than shit. My GF just told me the other day that she would get out of class early just to find me and listen to me tell my interesting stories, and that from then on she knew she truly liked me a lot. Changing geographics will amount to nothing, especially when there are millions of women in the united states alone. You are basically running away from the problem, which is yourself. People can sense that insecurity, hell even animals can sense that. All of this equates to confidence, and nobody on this forum can tell you how to build upon yourself, we can only share our experiences. Only you have the answer.
     
  7. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Animal,I think you this thing one day at a time.
     
  8. Animal

    Animal New Member

    What???
     
  9. Animal

    Animal New Member

    I hear you about the niche thing. I think I may have recently discovered my niche. As I said in my previous post, some consider me to be a geek/dork, although I don't. However that is the crowd I've been hanging out with lately. They're pretty open minded. I'm absolutely down with being friends with women. Most of the women who are with us usually are with someone or unattractive.

    As far as me being the problem, I disagree with you. Why is it that every time a man has a hard time attracting women, it is presumed that somehow it's his fault? What if it's no one's fault? It could be for some unknown reason(s), that it just not meant for me to have a woman at this time. Or maybe I am attractive, but women just don't like me because I don't follow some social norms? Or something else. Equates to confidence? What insecurity? I just explained in my last post that I am confident and how women want a superman/alpha male.
     
  10. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Obviously you are not attracting women the way things are now. You can fine tune or love yourself because it sounds like you are going to be alone.
     
  11. Animal

    Animal New Member

    Well I ain't gonna "fine tune". Because I like how I am now. And I don't wanna live an complicated and difficult life. Thanks for your thoughts and advice everyone, but I'm cool.
     
  12. rdubya86

    rdubya86 New Member

    You see what you typed right here, that is way too much. You need to chill out, and it all comes off as whining. If you don't want any feedback then don't ask any questions. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill. Just by looking at the content of your posts, I could see why a woman wouldn't want to be bothered with you.
     
  13. Animal

    Animal New Member

    Whatever. I'm supposed come off as stoic and just type one sentence? Don't tell me to chill out, why don't you chill out with your insults and show some class. You're the one who's judging me. And nobody asked you for any feedback for the record. If you can read the title of the post, I don't ask for advice/feedback on me personally. I only asked about other countries. And if you're gonna be rude, you don't need to respond. I'm not making a biggie out of anything. I'm just expressing myself. I have a right to do that, I can say whatever I want. Don't try to silence me just because my opinion is unpopular. I'm a human being who's free to express himself how he sees fit. I can say whatever I want. By looking at the content of your posts, you don't seem like someone with character, integrity, or morals. And I wasn't whining, I'm just telling it like it is.
     
  14. FG

    FG Well-Known Member


    Dude, you come off as extremely defensive, overly sensitive and having a victim mentality. You are making a biggie out of everything and if you dont want to hear the answer, dont ask the question.
    You see, everybody is giving you the same feedback. Time to start a self evaluation.

    Yes you have a right to free expression, but somehow you seem to think that is not extended to others on here - they have a right to free expression as well and if you put it out there, why do you think nobody as going to respond???
    And yes, you are not "telling it like it is" (not even close, you come with excuses), you are in fact whining. That is how you come across and you seem to have a screwed way of dealing w the facts.

    Btw, you say you dont want to live a complicated and difficult life, seems to me you are making it that way and you could make it less complicated and difficult by being less difficult.

    And how on earth can you say that Dubya comes off as having no integrity, character and morals. That was just plain silly.
     
  15. rdubya86

    rdubya86 New Member

    :smt038
    Thank you!

    I kind of feel bad for the guy though, because he is his own worst enemy.
     
  16. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    ah, dont thank me, its is obvious that he came at you w nothing other than a desire to get back at you for answering a question he, himself put out there.

    I agree w you though. Sad.
     
  17. Animal

    Animal New Member

    Obviously some of you all can't hear. I already spoke of men being accused of oversensitivity in my previous post. And I can see you are one of the proud perpetrators of that. Thanks for demonstrating that for us. And I aint no victim, so seems like you're taking me the wrong way. I just told you, it's not me who's making a biggie out of this, it's you and ya boy dubya. As far as me not wanting the answer, I'll tell you like I told him, if you can read my OP, it isn't asking for advice or questions about me personally is it??? No it's not thank you very much. It's asking about other countries. Go back and read it.

    And for the record I am telling it like it is. You don't agree so you accuse me of whining. Nice going. Nice strategy buddy. I did put it out there, but I didn't ask for asinine responses to a question I didn't even ask.

    Oh no sir. I assure you I live a very simple, practical, somewhat easy life. And I'm not difficult. I don't need a self-evaluation. You all need to show some class. And read my OP and make sure you know what you're talking about when you post.
     
  18. Animal

    Animal New Member

    I don't need your sympathy or pity party. You should feel sorry for yourself. You're extremely judgemental and have no people skills. So actually you're your own worst enemy. Good luck fixing that buddy.
     
  19. Animal

    Animal New Member

    No once again you're incorrect. And I was right. By the look of his posts, he does lack character and integrity. And so do you sir. And I don't need to get back at two people being defensive about an argument they started anyway. And once again, I didn't ask what you're accusing me of.
     
  20. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

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