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I forgot you don't share this sense of common struggle or solidarity with other Black people just because you are, ya know....Black.

You're 'Black' when it suits you. Otherwise it's 'them'.

Got it. Don't know how I forgot.

Only a person who thinks this way would argue that maybe dealing dope isn't that bad a choice for young BM, because it doesn't affect you regardless.

You sure do beef a lot on social issues for someone who has excess melanin but doesn't identify as culturally 'Black'.

 

I identify with being human but recognize that others will see me as black and navigate through life accrodingly. The problem with us vs them is on any given day you don't know who us is or who is them. So I don't engage in that horseshit because I don't believe that similar skin tone dictates how much we have in common or how you'll feel about me. I've almost died a number of times and friends saved my life. They were both white and black so I can't personally adopt the" black" doctrine. But it doesn't mean I can't observe the mistreatment of those who are identified African American. I choose to be aware. You should try it. You're a smart guy.

 

Being a human being first doesn't mean one still can't identify with a particular culture or ethnic heritage.:smt039

 

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I'm convinced the HUEman need to belong, and the concept of tribes and connecting to your village/community dates back to the beginning of man's time on earth. And when the Diaspora occurred, that sense of communal identity evolved all over the planet...which we relate to, to this day.

 

Love the species. Beware of the tribe.:smt048

 

This is why I don't trust the system, and am ashamed to say, that other than my uncle, who is a wonderful, moral, Christian man who retired as a Calgary police sergeant with an umblemished record, I am highly suspicious of cops and their motives. At times they are a refuge in time of trouble, but sometimes I wonder if it's only because I'm a white middle-class "looking" female (although looking middle-class, which these guys probably were, didn't help them any)...

 

An educated man understands the differences and commonalities and can choose to reject them. That's the great thing about intelligence. I see certain commonalities I have with other Jamaicans or other black people but that recognition doesn't make a true connection. This idea that someone is going to have more in common with me based on race and skin tone despite my experiences and personal taste is ridiculous to me.

 

Show me one post where I say us when refering to the good blacks have done. I absolutely hate that kind of coat tail riding. Taking pride in the accomplishment of others is weak. Be inspired by it fine but taking pride on it shows your inability to make your own path. Hood try though

 

Then why did you begin a thread about "Shit Jamaican parents say and Jamaican grandmothers say" and opine:

How is it that you made a connection to some stranger Jamaican man impersonating what Jamaican parents say..I mean, how could he possibly know how your dad or mom behaves when he doesn't have ANYTHING in common with you?

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Lol you love being difficult. Reread what you quoted and see if matches up with your comment. I admitted that there were commonalities but none so strong that it makes a true connection. Like ass whoopings are very common for West Indian kids and when I was growing up I thought no one else got their ass whooped but then found out almost everyone black white asian and hispanic got the shit kicked out of them we called ourselves children of the belt lol. But those things don't make true friendship or true love because if that were the case then none of us have any business on this forum since hater wm and bw were right. Stick to your own kind.

 

Really? So criminal Jews laid the foundation to the economic successes of the Jewish community in this country and THAT'S why they changed as a community to a non-criminal element? And you say the same went for Italian immigrants?

I don't know what century your mind lives in but there are Jewish and Italian immigrants to this day that arrive and strive and sweat to make it here. They are not criminals, just as the tens of thousands who migrated at the turn of the century were NOT criminals either. Those are the people who laid the foundations through their blood sweat and tears - not some rhetorical criminal hypothesis you've throw out there. If we take your example and apply it to modern day African Americans whom you described as being "developmentally at the same stage as European immigrants were at the turn of the last century" - then it would stand to reason that the criminal element in the Black community is in fact (to use your theory) "laying the base for broader economic opportunities for AA that will end the necessity for continued criminal activity". Which we know is not only NOT occurring, but simply untrue.

Andreboba is more than likely CORRECT in his assertion there was a collective frustration back then at the few spoiling it for all. And the reason his theory stands alone is because we bear witness TODAY at the frustration expressed by the Black community about what is occurring. Now imagine fast-forwarding 100 years to see it discarded because someone with your line of thought suggests the actual reason "Blacks cleaned up their act is because the criminals economically paved their way!" That would be ridiculed, no? Because one thing we can bank on with criminals is that they keep their loot all to themselves.

The likely truth is a collective heart of a people objecting to the sullying of their community and a call for a restored dignity, just as it was called for by the immigrant Jews and Italians back in the day.

 

First, can I laugh at your assertion that I like being difficult since you invented the trait?


Second: in love, where there are no rules, there is one sweet, tried and true formula that often works which is...opposites attract.


Third if you made no connection to your Jamaican roots or culture, then WHY didn't you just use these examples??


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These are effin hilarious, btw ! :smt081

 

TDK, take notes!

Now THIS is who you should aspire to lead like!

Here is his full essay..

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/why-im-hunger-striking-uva


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Kuno if you were my friend on fb you would see that I constantly lead others to donate hats and gloves to the homeless during winter and donate food to their local food bank just because it ain't covered by the news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I take that shit very seriously.
A shit ton of complaining with no fricking effort to change anything is the height of hypocrisy. So like I've said on here on often if you want to help out instead of judge then donate an hour a week of your time to something just one hour. Or take 1 percent of your paycheck and buy some food and clothing every time you get paid.

While I commend this kid lets see how long he lasts. We need consistency more so than grand gestures at his point.

 

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ??? This is the third time I will say even though I recognize commonalities it doesn't define me nor dictate the relationship I will have with someone. It doesn't define who I will have a deeper connection with all it illustrates is certain things that went on my household but not the overall theme of my upbringing or childhood. Much like if I post Shit Girlfriends say, not all my relationships have been like that or will be like that but I can relate to that particular video.

And opposites attracting is the dumbest misnomer I have ever heard come out of your mouth. Most marriages are built on commonalities of socioeconomic, educational, and religious backgrounds. The reason why couples who are opposite stand out to us is because they aren't the norm. Most of the couples that I've seen on here or heard about on here come from similar educational backgrounds and have similar ideologies like Loki and his wife both professionals or like Sin and her husband who both share an altruistic nature which is why they met volunteering. Unless you are implying that simply skin color makes people opposite from one another. Then I'd have to strongly disagree.

 

I think Kunoichi meant opposite personalities are often attracted to each other.

Such as, a low key type person might find a boisterous, opinionated individual attractive and vice versa.

Or an urban sophisticate may find an outdoors-y type appealing. Doesn't mean you don't need basic character traits or backgrounds in common.

 

Wow, that's an extreme over-simplification of what I said. I hate posting lengthy diatribes, but apparently I will have to because I run the risk of being misunderstood otherwise. I've posted about the struggles immigrants face and the difficulties they have at being accepted as full members in the US. There is no racial caucus that takes place during which they either decide to become criminals or to reject criminality as a race. I hope everyone understands that.

The period of an ethnic group's exclusion is almost always characterized by the emergence of a criminal underclass. I don't attach moral failings to people who engage in crime because it's a socioeconomic phenomenon. Poverty breeds crime because people will do what they have to in order to survive. The criminal underclass waxes and wanes among various ethnic groups in direct proportion to the willingness of the broader society to allow them full participation in the economy and society. The period of European ethnic group crime was also the early period of their arrival in this country and their exclusion by WASPs. Hostility toward the Irish, Italians and Jews was at its peak during this period.

The criminal underclass flourished until the larger ethnic group was able to carve out certain sectors of the economy that subsequently became dominated by their community and it was no longer necessary. The willingness of people in a given community to engage in crime drops off drastically as other legitimate opportunities become available. I was not suggesting a direct causal relationship between the activities of the criminals and subsequent law-abiding citizens, obviously. I thought that was clear based both on my general position in this thread and in previous posts. To suggest that was what I was saying is either an oversimplification or extremely disingenuous. In future posts, I will either be more explicit in my statements or keep them to a minimum.

As for my comment about the African-American community's development, I thought it was clear throughout this post that what I was referring to was that full equality (legal, social and otherwise) is a recent phenomenon for my race in this country. Legally, since 1964. Socially - ongoing. This country is STILL struggling to accept blacks as legitimate members and participants in the broader social fabric. As a result we are in our first 50 years of official "equality" and racism is still prevalent. This period is a rough corollary of the early period of European immigration to the US. I expect criminal activity among the current structural underclass - largely black and Latino - to wax and wane along with broader social developments, just like it did with other ethnic groups. Acceptance and equality reduce the willingness of members of the community to participate in crime. Blacks and Latinos are no different. A certain amount of all groups will participate in criminal activity, but equality and fair treatment reduces the percentage to those who are truly sociopathic.