Where's Dap and Half-pint! I remember reading a club flyer back in 2005, which ran a "paperbag test" for the females at the door. If you "passed", you got in free. !
I have to disagree with you about this. We may do it to ourselves, but it's the result of 400+ years of conditioning, brutality and oppression. You don't see too many of these 'Battle of the Complexions' nights in Lagos, Nigeria. Holy cow, Batman! This is the town I'm studying in this semester. Maybe I should go show up and represent the IR contingent! LOL
DO IT!!!!! Paniro is of the same kind of mindset that frequently tells poor people to get a job without looking at the reason for unemployment
Sorry my friend, but as any psychologist will tell you, you cannot brutalize someone endlessly over an extended period of time, then stop and say "Okay, I'm done, now get up and get on with your life." Ask a rape victim. The experiences of the last 400 years, particularly for blacks in the Diaspora, have been akin to a racial rape experience. If you think I'm making excuses, I beg to differ. Look at the levels of social ills among Native Americans, look at the higher occurrences of these problems among the Irish in the UK, aboriginal populations in the South Pacific, etc, etc. It's not offering an excuse, but simply an explanation for the greater prevalence of these problems among certain populations. Anecdotal evidence of individual successes (whether yours, mine or any figure honored during Black History Month) does not disprove the general tendency. I don't support any of the negative behaviors we're talking about, but they didn't just spontaneously occur. Take a free African, add 400 years of externally-imposed psychological, economic, physical, and social brutality and the product on the other side of that equation is the much-feared "nigga". I might. If I go, I'll give you guys a full report.
Can you please clarify? I am not sure I follow what you are trying to say. You are saying if you are raped/brutalized then you should let everyone in your "family" rape/brutalize you after that?? Willingly??!! If you keep being victimized and brutalized by your own people after the initial how does the cycle stop?? Don't you have to stop it yourself no matter what atrocities are in your history?? At some point you have to say no more. Bringing things against your own people doesn't solve anything nor absolve the crime.
Sorry if I didn't express my clearly. What I was trying to say is that a large amount of the sociopathic behavior in the black community is a direct result of the abnormal experiences of being someone's property and having your psyche forcibly converted over time. When an experience like that happens, it's impossible to tell someone "Oh it's over, just get over it." I was NOT trying to justify the behavior, but it does have a historical precedent. People don't just wake up and decide to do terribly harmful behaviors to themselves and each other. People are fundamentally rational-choice utility maximizers, so when they do things like this, they are usually the result of horribly distorted environments and irrational situations. I agree that we should do all we can to combat these ills, but treating them as moral flaws committed by worthless individuals misses the deeper point, in my opinion. People doing horrible things to each other is a social sickness, not just some individual failing. I was responding to some of the more vitriolic heavy-handed right-leaning statements about people who commit crimes, in this case, drug dealing.
Lets also not dismiss(because this is huge) the effects this has on your social standing and the ability to take care of yourself. A person who is denied things for a certain amount of time tends not to believe in the system that provides them. People say "well just get an education". From where? The shitty public schools that are under funded and under staffed? Stop selling drugs and doing crimes. Opposed to what? Not being able to find gainful employment after trying with no success. Like you said drug dealing is feasible short term fix but not a long term one in order to feed yourself and house yourself. Again I have to point out who here is without an education or some type of support system that's ever had to face this please speak up and explain why you are not in these neighborhoods trying to turn lives around. Its easy to judge shit when you're in the safety of your home miles away from the problem.
I hear you. The conservative view tends to view all problems as the result of some sort of individual failing while ignoring the very real forces that encourage this same sociopathic behavior. It's a convenient way for those involved in creating these environments to exculpate themselves. So much for personal responsibility of a higher level.
You make so much sense in this post it's almost disturbing. Rep coming. Edit: it WILL come...I just can't give you any atm.
THIS is exactly why it's so fun to interact with him. Denial, unfortunately, is not just a river in egypt...it's also a state of mind in too many people who refuse to see the truth because their world is so small and self contained that they would never push through that to a greater expansion.
Wait, which one is it? Because in the off duty IR cop thread, your comment there justified drug dealing as being the effect of post industrialization. As a result, you said, it wasn't fair to compare a drug dealer's lifestyle value system with the values of the "black agrarian poor of the South and initial black urban migrate(rs)", who worked an honest day's work. Yet in this one, it's because of 400 years of brutal oppression and enslavement to justify, in your words..."the Black community's sociopathic behavior...ie: drug dealing." ??
Thanks sweetheart. Lmao@ the edit part. That's a total" that's what she said" comment especially the atm part lol.
It depends on how you look at it...Many of those who are denied, whether by their own lazy accord, or by generational expectation, or by lack of opportunity, depend on and trust on the system TO provide for them, of which the system does. Curious - where did you get youreducation from growing up?
