Racial disparities with suspension rates in American schools

There isn't a particularly strong culture of academic success in the black community. Children tend to be left to their own devices as to how they embrace the value of an education. Naturally brilliant kids move on and do impressive things, but without the push from home a lot of mediocre and poor students from black homes wind up going in circles.

For the record, I was expelled from five schools between the ages of 12 and 17 and still graduated from one of the best universities in the world. It's all combination of will, talent, and luck.

 

Perfect painting of the American school system. When someone makes it cool to do good in school then things will be different.

 

Excuses? Please Im saying what is common sense. Most teenagers left on their own do not think long term. There are plenty of white kids who flunk out of high school or are just as degenerate for the exact same reasons. But as a whole it is far less likely a white kid is going to grow up in a household where going to college isn't encouraged/seen as not an option. Hell some middle class white parents literally force their kids to go to college. Threatening to totally cut them off if they do not.

 

My family was that way because both my black parents did graduate. I went and tried however I took a different route on the road to riches.

 

Banking in NY? That's a tough job but incredibly lucrative. I know a couple of kids I went to school with work for Price Cooper and are doing incredibly well

 

tell that to the Wharton guys that end up in places like Goldman-Sachs

these guys were laying off like no other

 

that's rare kid. I'll admit I only know two Wharton kids but they still have six figure jobs and the Stern kids are all employed to my knowledge. Maybe private school connections?

 

dunno....the goldman-sachs thing has become quite a running gag, considering a busy level 1 trauma hospital in this city doesn't layoff. Kinda makes you feel special that you went into healthcare instead of the MBA pipeline route to an investment firm.

 

Definitely agree. Medicine is always the safer route. No matter what people will need to be taken care of. No getting around it.

 

Well, here in CO (Aurora/Denver area anyway) kids don't get away with much. For instance, my son was suspended last year for making fun of the lunch lady. I thought a 3 day was a little overboard (since it was a onetime incident and included nothing violent), but I understood that making an impression on the kid now (before they do anything really bad) can potentially avoid something really bad later on. And … I am not a mom my kids wanna mess with. They know before the screw up that they will not get off easy and they will be punished in a way that fits “the crime.” My son was doing many an extra chore the whole time he was on suspension (while also doing his school work). I am tired of there being so many freakin parents out there who coddle they kids way past the toddler age and then when the kids messes up they don’t do shite but blame the teacher, principal, or whomever tries to discipline the kid! (SMH )


The high school my daughter goes to has a pretty good mixture of races so I would be interested in finding out if a similar study done at her school would come up with similar results. :???:

 

I agree 100%. When living in Houston, I even heard several students saying just that ... no one cares, why should I? Then there are the students who think, "maybe if I screw up enough, my mom/dad/aunt/whomever will start to pay attention to me and actually care." It is a terrible situation and if it continues (which it will) we are going to end up with a society full of people who don't care about anyone, even themselves.

 

haha...i like the ones that blame the violent video games for their kids' outlandish behavior.

i've played violent games and watched Robocop films since I was 12, and never got suspended from school. I knew if I got suspended or did something stupid, my mom would smack the black off my back. Fear like that worked for me and I think I turned out well. Never been to jail, always had a job, been through college, etc. Who says spanking your kids is bad?

 

Oh yeah ... well, I can't blame games because I grew up with games/violent movies/etc (and because 'cause we are a family of gamers), not to mention I don't believe it is the game/movie/tv show that does it ... I think it is already there and the parents ignore the signs which make it worse.

My kids know I live by Bill Cosby's old adage, “I brought you into this world and I can take you out!"

 

I am liking you more with every post. Always loved that Cosby line and so did my dad lol.

 

Holding that dualshock controller is like holding a gun. Can't see the similarities?:smt024

 

Aww, shucks ... thank you

Of course … a dual shock is surprising like an uzi :smt110 (SMH)

I hated the school system my kids were forced to go to there. I am so glad we are no longer there (at least for the school area, other than that I actually liked it - kinda)

 

Yes, bullying is definitely more prevalent in schools. This is a review from a male student taking a math class in college on StudentsReview.com.

"and the students are painfully immature (the first time I took math I had a lecturer who was an undergrad from Romania and spoke very poor Ennglish. She was made fun of, thrown at, and walked out on by virtually everyone in my class. Needless to say, I dropped the class after a month... because of the students)."

True. We have to realize that the stats were even worse in previous years (2005, etc). Suspension rates back then were higher for all racial groups. I believe that there's been a decrease, but the disparity between blacks and other races still exists even though the margin is smaller.

 

Oh I definitely realize that but still you have an understanding of personal responsibility even at a young age. I was lucky to be in a two parent household where they actually gave a damn about education.

My father told me some important advice that EVERY kid should know, its that you shouldn't expect the world or society to give you anything. All of these fools looking for a handout or thinking Obama is gonna give them something are straight up SUCKERS. Even at a young age you need to handle your business.

 

Yes excuses.

 

my dad was the same way

it's harsh but it puts things into perspective and makes you realize that you need to push yourself and go get shit

that's the same thing a coach will tell you, to get you to finish out that rep or down and it's the truth.