Rihanna Called “De Niggabitch” by Dutch Magazine

I think you are right, how you think and how you fight for a more respectful way of talking and not at least way of life.

I don't have experience about that black and white topics, I always have to read on this board, but I know that if I am running around and call myself constantly a c.. loud- I need not to wonder that doors are closing in front of my nose and to claim about that, because others don't respect me, would also be stupid and I assume it would be the same, whether I am now black or white.

The same is in return, if I meet a man, talking the whole time about bitches, whores, fuck, and other charming termina,Jesus, I have to run, no matter, whether he is now white or black. Who needs some one like that?

Or when I see discussions about what is more insulting, this or that..mama mia, are we a bunch of Neandertals?

People are so used to talk in a uneducated, stupid, disgusting way that they even don't know anymore the weight of these words.

About black community, I know several bm personally, not from Us, but from Africa, Europe. I don't know ONE, talking like that. More I cannot say about that topic, but I can understand, how frustrating it must be for you.

 

Do Asians call each other gooks.

Do Japanese call each other Japs

Do Whites call each other Crackas

Do Mexicans call each other wetbacks

Do Hispanics call each other spics

Do Russians call each other Ruskies

Do the French call each other frogs.

Do Germans call each other Krauts.

Do Poles call each other Polocks.

Do Italians call each other Whops.

So why do we as blacks call each other "Niggas" incessantly and think its all good.

Something is just not right about that mentality with us as a people that we would embrace such ignorance in how we present ourselves to the world. Proudly foolish of using disparaging terms, in a powerful medium like entertainment, then we are aghast that others reference us like that. Where is the self respect.

 

lol..90% of these words, I've never heard:smt005

 

I think its all about self respect, if you want someone to respect you make sure they know what you are about.

I'm a black man that doesn't tolerate any kind of racism or disrespect as far as my approach to dealing with others. I can't control the actions of others, but I can sure as hell make them know where I stand.

I've had to shut down kids in college who thought because they listened to a hip hop song they could recite the "nigga" filled lyrics to me as some means of fraternity because I'm black.

One look from me and they checked that noise.

 

LOL, a degree in History will provide some backdrop Christine.

 

I'm impressed.. you are young, fight for yourself and your people!

 

LOL, thx babe.

Its just that so many white kids listen to hip hop music today that if they are hearing those lines and lyrics, some genuinely feel its okay to say nigga as no big deal. The problem is they may say it to the wrong black person or ignorantly utilize it without any "context" to its usage, totally unaware of how it comes across.

This is why I have to disagree with Dark Knight.

Hip hop isn't isolated in the black community and sealed off from the rest of the world. So its not just reaching blacks alone. It is a global phenomenon.

Even those white folks who don't know a single thing about blacks but like hip hop will use the phrases and lyrics they hear in those songs because that is what they identify blacks with in their limited exposure to what they think is black.

If a black person is saying X,Y,Z about themselves over television then surely it must be okay to reference them as X,Y,Z. Isn't it. :idea:

 

I think it's good the editor was let go. She should be responsible for her own actions....not Rhianna even if though her's were not good either in the past. Everyone has to answer for themself and you can't get out of responsibility of right and wrong by blaming others for what comes out of your mouth or is in your mind. A lot of young girls listen to Rihanna and look to her on how to act. She isn't required to be a role model but she is sadly.

GQ you have a lot of good words. :smt049

 

Whites do call each other white trash and honky jokingly.
Italians do call each other ginies
Jews do call each other cheap ass jews
Chinese do call each other chinks
Native Americans call each other drunks and wife beaters
And are you kidding about Hispanics? They call each other beaners and spics all the damn time.
Whether insulting each other or as a term of endearment they do it.
The only reason blacks carry the burden we do is because we use nigga in popular music that's considered black music. Not to mention its generally youth culture doing all this shit and quite frankly I am so fucking sick of being defined by what one section of the population does. Just like thug culture. Blacks are the only besides maybe the arabs who have to carry the burden of what a few do.

 

Not around here. People blend in more. NY is a strange place.

 

Then white people who are just singing along to a song should have the balls to let whatever idiot who confronts them know they're just singing a song. If they use it in theor everyday vernacular then they better be authentic but I doubt most will. Most people are self aware to know what flies. Plent of non caribbeans listen to reggae and don't go around trying to sound carribean because they know they'll sound out of place. Sorry I don't buy your argument fam.

 

Before the current habitual use of the N-word in Black music and pop culture in general, the only Black entertainers who used it frequently were Redd Foxx and Richard Pryor.

There used to be a time when everyday Black folks almost NEVER used that term. It wasn't a 'greeting'. It wasn't a punchline. It wasn't even an epithet among Black people.

'Nigger' or 'nigga'(wtf?? this a bullshit parsing of the word to disarm it. SAME WORD) was a word that White men used when they were about to take your manhood.

Has it been used prior in Black society before the last 30 years?? Yes.

It was used commonly in lower class Black society = street culture = juke houses/whore houses = GHETTO culture.

What's shocking to my parent's generation is how ignorant 'ghetto culture' has become MAINSTREAM in the Black community.

When a Black person goes around saying, 'nigga this', 'nigga that', it's the equivalent of meeting someone and asking, 'how's your mother?', and they respond, 'oh that dusty bitch? Chillin'.'

You would think that person was both stupid and insane.

But somewhere along the way a segment of the Black community has embraced that word with both arms and a smack on the lips.:smt102

What's most frustrating about rap artists is that many are so verbally and lyrically gifted, if they put a voluntary moratorium on the N-word it wouldn't change the quality or impact of their music one iota.

Lil' Wayne would still be just as street. The Dirty South would still be just as filthy.

Some words can't be 'claimed' and 'owned'. They are what they are.
There's a reason why Richard Pryor at the height of his career quit using the word.

There's a mental defect in the Black community IMO, and much of it is self inflicted.

And it kills me when you ask other Black folk can they stop using the word and they get OFFENDED by the very idea!!lol
Like you're asking them amputate a limb or murder a loved one.

Yeah other ethnic groups use ethnic slurs in their own vernacular, but NO ONE people have turned it into music and a permanent speech pattern like Black people have.

Most communities don't think it makes them more 'authentic' to use racial slurs against themselves.

 

Yeah fuck New York.

 

I'd rep you but I have to spread some around first...

 

Haha true that

blacks are an interesting people

i try not to use the word myself in daily life, but don't mind watching movies or listening to music that has it in it

we are the only ones silly enough to use a racially derogatory term towards each other, while getting upset when someone else uses it

I have yet to see asians call each other zipperheads or slant eye...they know better

 

I live in a place that has a very low population of black people, so i'm not exposed to the word being thrown around casually. Well, in music because that's the kind of music I listen to.

Anyway, I'll reserve judgement on the Rhianna thing.

But one day, I was standing outside a store waiting for a friend and there was a young black man who was using this word constantly. Every other word out of his mouth. We have a very large asian population here and every time he addressed anyone (females also) he addressed them in this manner. I was highly, highly offended. It was just...so....I don't know what exactly. But it was disrespectful toward himself as well as those he was talking to and those bystanders who had to hear it.

I kept thinking it had to boil down to cultural influence and a lack of knowing/and or forgetting history. I think if he honestly understood what the term originally meant and that people died and were tortured and were demeaned because of their skin color and this was the word given to "describe" that, I don't think he would ever have used it.

I could be totally wrong on that. That was just the way it came across to me and the means I used to justify such offensive behavior.

 

Therein is the key, you stated it. You mentioned that you don't reside in an area that has a large black population, but you have heard it frequently in the music.

So while some white, Asian, Arab folks know better than to use it, there will likewise also be those who are not cognizant of its application and historically racist overtones, especially if they are non American and utilize it because they have seen blacks using it as a form of communication and social expression on national and international entertainment mediums.

Then they will be dumbfounded blacks are offended when they themselves use the term so frequently in entertainment.

 

Ok, in all fairness that's not the only type of music I listen to. And I'm aware enough to know the consequences of the word. And even if i didn't listen to hip hop or rap or whatever I would still hear it from those who do. Car sound systems come to mind.

I think my whole point was it just comes down to forgetting history, as is always the case. People like Jay-Z and Rhianna and the like have forgotten the original connotations of the word. And the young people just follow blindly.

I don't know. I've reserved my judgement on the whole thing for good reason. I was just really offended that a black male could throw such a nasty word around so carelessly.

And honestly (I know I won't get any points for this) I am really surprised to see so many black people up in arms against each other. Some say it's ok, others say not so much. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I really hate this kind of stuff. I was raised by a racist. The whole entire thing makes me sick to my stomach.

Hating someone for the color of their skin is just wrong. Calling them names because they don't look like you or act like you is just wrong. I experience A LOT of hate where I live because I have white skin. It's not my fault that my DNA is coded to contain less color than, say, a hawaiian. I have three IR children (with a Hawaiian/Filipino ex) and I told every single one of my children that they are not to hate white people because their mother is white. They disrepect themselves and their mom if they go around hating the "haoles". And they are two-faced to boot.

 

It isn't a word period!
Look up Webster and let me know.

It is somebody who wants to justify saying the n-word with the misspelling of the n-word.

 

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