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Discussion in 'In the News' started by Iggy, Dec 12, 2011.

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The Dark King Well-Known Member

Jase said: ↑

Seeing how conservatives think it's their business to tell people who have nothing to do with them whether they can or can't get married because of their religion, I don't think they have much room to talk. Only a conservative would view fighting for equal rights as a "demand for legislated respect".

And I'd love to know which liberals have tried to "outlaw guns". Barack Obama or otherwise.

Once again, I'd love to see proof of this.

When a conservative is down and out his first reaction is usually to throw a tantrum. And while he may think about how to better his situation he'll be damned if he claims any responsibility for being in that situation.

Being a conservative however it's perfectly fine for him to expect everyone else to acknowledge responsibility for their own situation. All the while whining about how much better minorities have it because of affirmative action, the liberal media, illegals, our racist President, and socialism ruining the country and destroying the economy.

It's amazing how we're still the ONLY industrialized nation on the planet that does not provide healthcare to it's citizens and these Jesus loving conservatives are perfectly fine with that. Notice conservatives certainly don't want society taking care of anyone but try to get any to give up their Medicare benefits or Social Security checks and see what they think about that.

Liberal AND conservative atheists want the first amendment and the separation of church and state to be acknowledged and enforced. You know that thing in the Constitution conservatives go on and on so much about.

Those compassionate conservatives are sure quick to want to break up a brown family here illegally and ship their asses back to drug ravaged Mexico because according to them "the law is the law". But let someone try to get a Nativity scene taken down at a federal courthouse because it's illegal (and technically unconstitutional) and those compassionate conservatives have finally found something to go ape shit over.

These are the same conservatives who lost their damn mind when NBC cut the words "Under God" from the pledge of allegiance during the U.S. Open Golf Championship back in the summer.

These are the same conservatives who are trying to get advertisers to pull their commercials from the new reality show 'All American Muslim' because:

"Many situations were profiled in the show from a Muslim tolerant perspective while avoiding the perspective that would have created Muslim conflict thereby contradicting The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America."

God forbid we have a show about Muslims that doesn't demonize them. So much for conservatives changing the channel.

I'd rather have Americans spending their money on healthcare for each other unlike conservatives who'd rather we keep spending our money blowing up brown people on the other side of the planet, starting and endlessly fighting in stupid wars, and maintaining the hundreds of military bases we have around the globe. If you're a conservative it's perfectly fine to cut Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, pensions, and bust unions because we simply can't afford it. But cut the defense budget, close overseas tax loopholes, and get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy and multi-billion dollar corporations ?? Oh no conservatives can't have that.
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Damn wish I could rep you fam. Thread shut down

The Dark King, Dec 13, 2011

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Jase Active Member
I'd also like to add getting insurance isn't as easy as simply shopping around for it. I'm not employed but would have no problem paying monthly premiums. Yet I don't have health insurance and have been rejected by BlueCross, Celtic, UnitedHealth, and others solely because I have Hypertension. It doesn't matter that I'm only 27, am in fine health, and am more than willing to pay for insurance. I still keep getting rejected.

And since working a full time job is impossible since I'm in Nursing School (yet don't qualify as a full time student), and the jobs in my area don't really offer benefits for part time I basically am stuck with no health insurance.

So hopefully I don't get sick or have an accident and wind up tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Which I wouldn't even have to worry about in one of those socialist countries conservatives irrationally hate so much.

Jase, Dec 13, 2011

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Iggy Banned

I see this thread struck a bit of a nerve lol

Jase said: ↑

And I'd love to know which liberals have tried to "outlaw guns". Barack Obama or otherwise.

Once again, I'd love to see proof of this.
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Michael Moore.

Iggy, Dec 13, 2011

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Jase Active Member

Iggy said: ↑

I see this thread struck a bit of a nerve lol

Michael Moore.

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okay u got me:smt019

Jase, Dec 13, 2011

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goodlove New Member

flaminghetero said: ↑

If you're a conservative you preach morals and family values and suck random dicks in the airport mens room.
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dont forget they want a theocracy too.

they believe in demagoging also

goodlove, Dec 13, 2011

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flaminghetero Well-Known Member

goodlove said: ↑

dont forget they want a theocracy too.

they believe in demagoging also
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They believe in demagagging on dicks.

flaminghetero, Dec 13, 2011

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Ches Well-Known Member

The Dark Knight said: ↑

Conservatives want prayer in school even though they supposedly believe in the constitution and its doctrine of seperatation of church and state.

Conservatives think everyone should rise or fall on their own merit unless they're a corporation then they deserve a handout.

Conservatives have the nerve to criticize other countries like France, Canada, and the UK for their socialized healthcare plans even though the US(the world's wealthiest country) is 37th in healthcare. To make it simple The Cleveland Cavaliers shouldn't criticize how the Heats, Bulls, and Mavericks play basketball.

Conservatives reject progress for all in favor of benefits for some

Conservatives are the biggest hypocrites since most of them seem to be religious zealots but ignore Christ's biggest lesson. Do onto others as you would have it done onto you.
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I don't do anything "onto" others, but I do try to do "unto" others as I would have them do "unto" me. It's a little more hygienic that way.

Ches, Dec 13, 2011

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andreboba Well-Known Member

Michael Moore is the FAR Left.

NO liberal politicians have supported banning guns.
Least of all the POTUS.

Most Libs believe their should be greater regulation and restricted sale of certain firearms, but that's it.

andreboba, Dec 13, 2011

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Morning Star Well-Known Member

Actually, Michael Moore favors the Canadian model of gun control. So no, Iggy is wrong (once more). Quote from the link:

As Michael recites the Canadian model, which regulates but doesn't restrict responsible gun ownership, the message is clear: Rational gun control laws that keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and unstable, mentally ill individuals, do actually work. If not for the powerful Gun Lobby in this country we would have passed rational gun control laws in the United States a long time ago. In fact we did; but the Democratic Party's profiles in courage allowed the assault weapons ban to expire — because they did not want it to become a Republican campaign issue; also their reasoning for running away from healthcare. That worked out really well.

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okay u got me:smt019
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Morning Star, Dec 13, 2011

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Iggy Banned

BigBrotherWise said: ↑

Actually, Michael Moore favors the Canadian model of gun control. So no, Iggy is wrong (once more). Quote from the link:

As Michael recites the Canadian model, which regulates but doesn't restrict responsible gun ownership, the message is clear: Rational gun control laws that keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and unstable, mentally ill individuals, do actually work. If not for the powerful Gun Lobby in this country we would have passed rational gun control laws in the United States a long time ago. In fact we did; but the Democratic Party's profiles in courage allowed the assault weapons ban to expire — because they did not want it to become a Republican campaign issue; also their reasoning for running away from healthcare. That worked out really well.
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Have you even seen Bowling for Columbine? Moore is VERY anti gun and thru out the film would make statements about outlawing every gun if he had his way.

And there are plenty of libs that have wanted to outlaw all guns. Come on now.

Iggy, Dec 14, 2011

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andreboba Well-Known Member

Iggy said: ↑

Have you even seen Bowling for Columbine? Moore is VERY anti gun and thru out the film would make statements about outlawing every gun if he had his way.

And there are plenty of libs that have wanted to outlaw all guns. Come on now.
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Most liberal politicians believe in stricter gun laws, like in D.C. and NYC.
Outright banning of all firearms and publicly advocating that is right wing media propaganda.

It's like right wingers who believe libs are soft on defense.

When BHO was elected, the NRA and its supporters spread this massive lie that Obama was going to ban the sale of ammo in lieu of banning the sale of guns in a new federal law.

All the right wing gun lovers freaked out and bought as many ammo packs as they could carry from gun shows and dealers across the country.

Um, it never happened.:smt067

Conservatives are getting played by their own on the daily yet they don't even realize it.

andreboba, Dec 14, 2011

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MissWacy New Member

Iggy said: ↑

I'm not a conservative (actually more of a moderate/independent) but I came across one of my friend's facebook status updates and it was an interesting read...

If a conservative does not like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal does not like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a homosexual he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is a homosexual he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants to outlaw meat for everyone.

If a conservative is down and out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a liberal is down and out, he demands that society take care of him.

If a conservative is an atheist, he does not go to church.
If a liberal is an atheist, he wants all mention of god and religion silenced.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he turns the channel.
If a liberal doesn't like a talk show host he demands that they are shut down.

If a conservative wants health care insurance, he shops for it or gets a job that provides it.
If a liberal wants health care he demands that the rest of us pay for it.

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some of those are true from the libs/conserves i have encounterd

MissWacy, Dec 14, 2011

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The Dark King Well-Known Member

paniro187 said: ↑

I nailed it on this one.
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You nailed it or I nailed it?

The Dark King, Dec 14, 2011

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The Dark King Well-Known Member

paniro187 said: ↑

Dam phone I meant you.
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Thanks bro

The Dark King, Dec 14, 2011

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jaisee Well-Known Member

Just as the feminism shit is dying down around here, the liberal vs. conservative shit is picking up.

What's next, I wonder....

jaisee, Dec 14, 2011

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The Dark King Well-Known Member

jaisee said: ↑

Just as the feminism shit is dying down around here, the liberal vs. conservative shit is picking up.

What's next, I wonder....
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Black vs white. Isn't it obvious? Lol

The Dark King, Dec 14, 2011

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Jase Active Member

paniro187 said: ↑

Not employed? So you are a true to form liberal. Next time you go to the hospital rep me on here.
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How does me not being employed have anything to do with me being a liberal??

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Jase, Dec 14, 2011

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Morning Star Well-Known Member

I have seen the movie and you're taking the entire documentary out of context. Again, he's not demanding an outlawing of guns. Rather, pushing for restrictions for it. Again, a Canadian model. Pay attention next time. Your comprehension skills will improve if you bother to actually get the point and not look at Moore as some overly-left leaning anti-gun person. In fact, a very small percentage of people would like to make guns illegal and that's in the single digits. Come on, dumbass. Use common sense.

Ah, and since you overlooked the movie, here's a little FACT: Michael Moore is a card carrying member of the NRA.

Iggy said: ↑

Have you even seen Bowling for Columbine? Moore is VERY anti gun and thru out the film would make statements about outlawing every gun if he had his way.

And there are plenty of libs that have wanted to outlaw all guns. Come on now.
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Morning Star, Dec 14, 2011

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luvattractivewomen New Member

luvattractivewomen, Dec 14, 2011

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Soulthinker Well-Known Member

Your friend's words sound more libertarian than conservative.

Soulthinker, Dec 15, 2011

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