"12 Reasons women can't stand Nice Guys."

Any woman who hasn't gotten the bad boy thing out her system by 25 is an idiot and deserves whatever pain comes with that shit.
I don't advocate being nice either because too many people see that shit as weakness. I'd rather be kind. Be kind is a simple act that allows you to do nice things without it being your persona.
My advice to dudes is say as little as possible because they make it up in their heads anyway.

 

Great post. Agreed completely.

 

I've been with both bad and good guys and I'll take a good guy any day.

 

At the risk of sounding religious, AMEN to what I bolded.

 

You need a spanking for that. Although, it is true for a lot of women. :smt042

 

dude's a fuckin prophet

 

I appreciate that you acknowledge that though lol.

 

I hear what you're saying, but it wouldn't have held true in my case because I was married at 20 and got divorced at 26. Fell prey to a very BAD BOY after that. So did I deserve what was coming to me since I had not have years and years of dating experience? Personally, I think you have to have been single for an extended period of time to really be aware about these distinctions, and how to guard yourself from them.

There is also the "nice guy" that you are overlooking - the "nice guy" who is really a fucked-up passive aggressive fuck-wit who does nice things not for the sake of being kind, but because he has an ulterior motive and is too cowardly to go after what he really wants. Meanwhile, he broils in resentment and bitterness, and ultimately has an intense dislike of women or a huge pity party for himself, if he doesn't wind up taking it out on the woman in some form of abuse if they do eventually get together.

Here's an article which illustrates my point perfectly:
http://icedteaandlemoncake.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/feminsim-101-nice-guy-syndrome/

 

Shit even I can't disagree on this one:smt104

 

Oops sorry - I was looking for an article to illustrate my point, and edited my previous comment to include it, so you wouldn't have seen it, DK - take a gander and let me know what you think of it:

http://icedteaandlemoncake.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/feminsim-101-nice-guy-syndrome/

Warning - it's chock full of sarcasm and written from a feminist standpoint - I am not strictly feminist, perse, but it was the first one I could find which had the requisite "punch". Ignore the link for Plus-Sized clothing LMAO!! Not sure how I feel about fatty-fat-fat rant (makes HER come off as bitter IMHO), but it does give one pause...

 

Honestly why do we even need the distinction of bad guy, nice guy.

What qualities even defines those terms, what's bad to one person may not be to another, the same for nice.

What about just dealing with a man that is respectful, responsible and confident.

If you are looking for some ride on the wild side of life, then the priorities need to be examined about what is meaningful in life.

Take up bungy jumping or something if you want a cutting edge experience.

Surely hanging with some dude who is in a 1% biker gang or in and out of prison, or dodging gunshots or a wife beating alcoholic surely doesn't appeal to a rationale woman, does it.

I've come to the distinct realization that maybe women don't know what the hell they want at varying points in life. Seems like a lack of being content.

This is why you can't try to please others, you can only live your life because you never know what is in the mind of the other person.

I respect women and fully expect the same in return. I don't need to act like a prick or an asshole to prove a point.

If they need that then what next, for me to club them over the head and drag them away, neanderthal caveman style, beats me.

 

You know what's bs about that whole article and one of my biggest problems with a lot of women is that they don't take any responsibility for the shit that may cause the situation. Why would you allow someone to boyfriend like things with and for you and that get weird once you find out he has feelings for you.
And that whole no means no thing is getting lost in translation when there are a ton of women out there who love to play games and want a dude to "fight for them" "put in that extra effort". So sometimes its hard to see the line between persistent and creepy. How any texts are too many texts, how many calls are too many calls, how are you suppose to dicpher between a playful no and total disinterest especially when these same women will carry on with the same friendship in the same manner that lead up to the confusion.

I always say and tell all the females in my family to assume from get go that most guys are having a conversation with you because they want to nail you. It may not be true in a lot of cases but don't assume they want to be your bff which most guys don't want to be especially if you're hot. Girls fail to realize your friendly behavior is a lot like your romantic behavior. Like girls I'm friends with love to hug and kiss everyone on the cheek, friend, boyfriend, coworker, classmate doesn't matter. Men don't usually have that social interaction with one another, the only time we really experience that level of affection is when we are in relationships so you can't blame a guy for a being a little annoyed that the girl who loved to be touchy feely and hug and kiss all of time ignores their advances.
And you have to remember the dude you rejected was probably the person you told about what kind of guy you wanted and took it to heart. Of course he's going to criticize you for picking someone who is nothing like what you said you wanted . If more girls would be real and just be truthful I think there would be less resentment. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of lame dudes with unrealistic expectations but I do fault women for giving him false hope. The way I fault dudes who give false hope to women.
I also didn't like that bs where they said if you ignore fat women you have no right to complain as if you're suppose to just take anyone who is in front of you. Its like saying if a woman turned down an unemployed guy she has no right to say there are no good guys out there lol.

Bottom line is don't go around giving false hope and then complain when it blows up in your face.

 

So true fam. I have yet to get the phone call from a male friend telling me they're so unhappy and they don't know why.

 

ROFL.

Now you mention that and I think about it, you make a very good point.

Its crazy bro.

When a woman is unhappy and she doesn't know why, shit has hit the fan because no matter what you do, it will not matter.

 

Yeah, DK, I see your point - I think some women like to keep a guy around for a "BFF" in some ways just to stroke their (her) own ego - to make herself feel secure that someone is paying attention to her - so she bitches and whines to him about all of the other guys that she's trying or wanting to get with, and he's standing on the sidelines, waiting for her to "see the light" (that he's standing right in front of her). I've never been one to keep guys as friends on the side - just couldn't stand to lead them on. The only guys I have as friends are old, old friends from high school, although they've always kind of "held a torch" for me, and it generally falls off when they discover I'm not really attracted to them - because I will be straight out honest, OUT OF RESPECT for their feelings. A lot of women are not as considerate or compassionate as me, though, I think. They really like to toy with men's emotions.

Usually, I'm the one who winds up getting toyed with, but someone who keeps stringing me along for years (someone with commitment issues or some other problem), but it usually works out because I guess I like to be independent...

I agree with you about the fat thing. I thought she was way off base about that. I run into the problem though with "nice guys" who are also FAT or chubby, which I don't like - and they think because I'm a little bigger (not fat, but not model skinny), that I should have no problem with dating them, and can get bent out of shape when I say no. OR there's the guy who is ripped, cut, and in shape, who will ask me out and I will say no - he REALLY gets annoyed LOL, and his nasty side will come out - not such a "nice guy" then...

The problem with "nice guys" is their incessant whining about not being able to find a girl - but their goals are unrealistic, for starters. They do nothing to make themselves more appealing, and aren't more direct, then wonder why their fantasy girl doesn't land in their lap. I find them unreliable and dangerous - highly unconfident and very unmasculine. If you call them on their shit, they will get uncomfortable and turn on you in a heartbeat, calling you every name in the book, before they will take a look at their own behavior. Luckily after a bit of life experience after my divorce, I can spot them from a mile away.

 

When I am unhappy, I always know why, GQ. That's why I am single and will remain so for the foreseeable future. A man that makes me cry on a regular basis, is not a man that I need to have in my life. I have cried more tears than I have smiled, and that is a tragedy that I am not willing to perpetuate. It is better to be alone for now.

 

All the more reason why it becomes even more complex adn problematic if a woman is unsure of why she is unhappy in a relationship.

It would seem that the men you had in your life were one's that shouldn't have been there in the first place, if you have cried more tears than smiled.

Life is about taking chances, but damn, what guys are you messing with b.t.w. to be in that position frequently.

 

Just balls of emotions which is why I keep most of my conversations to texting since what I say rarely matters. Once they feel a certain way, there's no logic on earth that will sway them.

 

It was a 6 year marriage (10 years total from 16 to 26), with a heartbreaking 6 monther after that that took me a long time to recover from (overlapping the next relationship), then a 5 year relationship, then there has been an off/on relationship from 33-36 but he is now long distance so I have to put that to rest. Now I am alone.

 

LOL.

Ah, my motto indeed. Arguing with a woman is fruitless and she will likely hold on to anything negative you say about her long after.