The thing I love most about WW

So let me get this straight, the depths of your ignorance and self delusions are such that you are basically acknowledging with this statement that you have no knowledge of or care about any gang cultures or their origins outside of the confines of California, especially those that came about in the rural areas of the mid-west and the south, where previously there was no gang culture around if you don't count the KKK in the south, due to the rise of crack & the migration of the very gangs of California that you hold in such high regard into those areas? SMDH.

 

It's pathetic that someone who subscribes to racial harmony and IR's would write those words. They are offensive, without any truth of science, stereotypical, and arguably racist.

As I suggested to the other Canadian who made a similarly unintelligent comment,,it's great that you enjoy Black voices but it should end with your silent appreciation. Your current display only draws the ire of those who find racial stereotyping offensive.

 

Well, I guess it's best at this point if I say that agreeing with you (the first time several months ago) about the stuff that's happened on here was understandable. This time, I can't co-sign with you. Apparently, Swirlman and the others are correct. I have nothing against you personally, I just believe what the others are saying over your word this time. It doesn't mean I'm weak, as you stated, it's just simple logic about how things are in the real world.

With regards to Al Jahiz, please view the two images below.






What do you think the people on here are like, and based on those images, what type of black man do you think white women would obviously have a preference for? We need to eliminate the "hood", "gangsta" image away from us so we as a race improve. Al Jahiz is a step backwards in regards to that issue.

If no BM represented image #1 and all BM were representative of image #2, racism against blacks would be minimized. Also, it reaffirms the perception that successful black men end up in romantic relationships with white women, and not BM that are similar to image #1.

Good job Ra, that waste of space is gone!

 

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It's called acoustics. People's faces and heads are like buildings - the voice will be influenced by the shape of the structure it originated from (nose/throat/mouth/tongue/lips/vocal chords). Any musician would tell you that a voice is an instrument - each person is not the same brand-name and style of "pipe organ" for example, but their own unique set of pipes, inherited from their parents. That is NOT a racist statement - I actually did some reading before I even posted that comment.

It would also have to do with *how* you learned to talk - what part of the throat or mouth, which would be a learned behavior.

If we can tell the race of a person 90% of the time by sight alone, why would it be any different with sound/quality of voice? I'm talking biological markers, NOT accents. As far as my "silent appreciation" is concerned, I am not going to shut my mouth just to baby your precious feelings. We are all human beings on this earth, and Caucasian IS AN ETHNICITY too. I can be curious about the human journey/ experience all I want - if scientists never asked the hard questions, where would we be? If you are going to get your panties in a bunch about the word "science", and stop THINKING logically, that is your problem, not mine.

 

No, Caucasion is a whole bunch of different ethnicities. Irish is an ethnicity. Hungarian is a different ethnicity, etc etc.

 

That is completely false. If you wanted to use the tired old different race defense sure but ethnicity? Typical separationist/racialist tactics. If there is such a thing as identification of race by voice then why do all southerners sound the same to my ear or why do Australians sound different from Russians? Chinese from Koreans, Jamaicans from Nigerians?
Quit trying to sound smart when you're not its just sad.:smt068

 

Summer ends this week but stupid season is a year round affair on wwbm. In Saint Augusta (or Joan of Arc's) defense, her arguments on vocal differentiation are not entirely off base.

 

I can only say that you are laughable at this point. Your statements reflect a certain psychotic preoccupation with labels and stereotypes.

You are not a scientist and you comments belie your lack of knowledge anything remotely close to the truth. Just how telling do think it was for you to suggest that I think logically, and then reference science in the same vain??

In the case of true scientists, their curiosity is aroused when they consider known facts and ask, what if. True scientists wouldn't ask naked ignorant comments as you have done here. There're no recognized biological markers for voice discernment among races. Considering the lack of pure races it seems silly to suggest such a concept.

I didn't ask you to stop your rants in an attempt to curb your warped attempt to engage in faux science, I said it an effort to allow you your preconceived notions of appreciation, while sparing the rest of us from insensitive, unfounded, stereotypical and racist rants. If we want the input of non-credentialed social scientists espousing nonsense, I'm sure that we can find it on various Pro White forums throughout the internet.

 

And why do my black friends in England have a "British voice" which tells me where in the country they are, but not the shade of their skin?

 

I am not "Pro-White". Not in the slightest, and to imply such is a grave insult which thankfully I know better than to take personally. I am just fascinated with people. I am an artist, and I do not paint landscapes, architecture, or flowers... I paint and draw people...of all races. I find beauty in the human face and body and all of our uniqueness, strength, and frailty...

BTW it doesn't take a scientist to understand the basic concept of acoustics/physics. Athletes are masters of physics. Artists are intimately acquainted with the human body, and in many cases have similar knowledge and study the same anatomy texts as surgeons. If acoustics of body/face shape have nothing to do with sound and quality of voice, why are most prominent opera singers so robustly built (ex. Luciano Pavarotti)?

 

You are right, TreePixie. My mistake - I knew what I was trying to say... they always have "ethnic" hair care products labelled separately in grocery stores, which is a white-centric attitude, as if white isn't "ethnic", as if "everything else" is ethnic, like white is the standard from which everything else springs, which is just horseshit.

So with that line of thinking, "black" isn't "ethnic" either. Nor Asian - it would have to be narrowed down to a particular country or cultural upbringing.

 

I think it's easier to differentiate within your own culture (American accents) - not that we really *want* to. But accents are distracting. Ask a British person if they can tell a "black voice" - that's an interesting question.

 

You just keep digging bigger holes. Give it a rest kid. Athletes are masters of physics? Possibly kinesiology (study of the movement of the body) but not physics.
And I'm not even going to comment on the last line I don't have the energy. Good luck out there, something tells me you're going to need it.

 

If you listen to the video I put up I don't have what you call a black voice neither do most of the males in my family. Are we not black anymore?

 

I have, and they can't. Slightly left of the topic, years ago I worked closely with a woman who was based in Canary Wharf in London. She worked with a couple of us in the states, one of whom, let's call her J, had grown up in Southie in Boston, a very Irish neighborhood not known for integration. She and Margaret, the British woman, had gotten to be very good friends over the phone.

Margaret came to the states, and headed to the cafeteria when she got to our building. Janet was down there getting coffee, and heard Margaret's clipped British tones and turned to greet her. "MARGARET" she gasped "You're BLACK!!!" Completely droll, Margaret intoned "Damned Jet Lag."

 

Athletes are no more masters of physics than most artists who claim an understanding of physics or acoustics. An athlete doesn't have to understand the principles behind their success to be successful athletes, they need only be masters at the application of them. Coincidentally, it ALWAYS with the aid of "scientists", those who truly understand the principles.

As to your question about quality of sound and body type, Jackie Evancho. Next...

 

LOL - that's hilarious! I did the same thing once when applying to be a roommate - had been talking with a guy over the phone and had a complete picture of what I expected him to look like down to the sandy blond shaggy hair, got to the door, and he was a mixed guy... I said "You're black!" and he thought that was funny (I hope). Probably wasn't the first time he had surprised someone...

 

If I had a $1 for every time a White person has "assumed" that I was White when they spoke to me on the phone... Imagine the surprise of ..real estate agents who I often met in their offices after a phone conversation, or business appts., etc. I have never gotten the reaction one would expect when you walk up to the desk of someone with whom you've scheduled an appt, lol. It's always, may I help you, to which I reply I'm Mr. S, and the looks are memorable.