aint no shame in their game or should it ?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by goodlove, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html

    Sugardaddy sites are reeling in the dough during the worst economic times in decades. Herds of young college students, artists, actors and models are flocking to Sugar Daddy dating websites to find the answer to their financial prayers: a rich sugar daddy.

    Is this cool ? Is it any different from being a hooker ? NAW. so why are hookers looked down upon ? people buy sex all the time. when they take a woman on a date out for dinner arent they paying for sex ? whats the difference?
     
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  2. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    IMO, that practice disgusts me.

    I think the women that engage in that are stupid and don't have respect for themselves.
     
  3. satyr

    satyr New Member

    It's basically a more formalized way of repeating the same formula that has characterized male/female mating behavior since time immemorial -- a man's resources for a woman's youth and beauty.
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    But what is the difference ? why is it so horrible ?


    stirring up shit
     
  5. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    And I think that's a stereotype. It depends entirely on context. A heroin addicted street hooker may not have respect for herself. A high level call girl getting thousands of dollars a night with a small clientele may have great respect for herself.

    I have friends who put themselves through grad school and doctorate studies by stripping. Brilliant, talented women who were beautiful and smart enough to realize working a couple of nights a week taking off their clothes allowed them to pay tuition and live well while they pursued their higher education, and went on to successful careers in their chosen fields.

    If men are dumb enough to pay for sex, wtf is the problem with a woman selling it?
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    its called putting those men in the trick bag
     
  7. satyr

    satyr New Member

    A man who pays for sex isn't "dumb". If nothing else, he's getting the opportunity to indulge himself without having to commit to a longterm relationship that he may have no interest in pursuing.

     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    or dealing with the hassle of dating ?
     
  9. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    It would never have been for me, but thats because I like sex too much to turn it into work. I have no moral objection unless someone is being exploited. There's waaay too many young teens working as prostitutes, waay too many trafficked women, pimped women without control of their lives, and I have a problem with all of that. But a woman who chooses to make sex her living, is in control of her job and her income? That doesn't bother me in the least.
     
  10. satyr

    satyr New Member

    The rules likely differ from pairing to pairing with some men taking the women out for dinner, concerts, or whatever with an implicit understanding that the relationship is primarily one of convenience.

     
  11. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Stripping is understandable, but sex for revenue is a completely different ballpark. Regardless of the intent of why you're doing it, that's ultimately what it is. A student is procreating with some old, wealthy guy in exchange for cash. This defeats the purpose of having sex (in general) which is supposed to be with someone you love. Not with someone who you only see once and then you never see again.

    Here is a quote from someone who I agree with.

     
  12. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    I didn't mean dumb in quite that way (where is our sarcasm font?). One of my celebrity friends, who was once caught with a hooker - big scandal at the time, told me long ago that the point of hookers is that you aren't paying them to show up, you're paying them to LEAVE. :)
     
  13. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Except, during much or that time immemorial, all women had to offer were their bodies. Now, women have many more choices, access to education, jobs, resources of their own, and value beyond their bodies.
     
  14. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    That is what sex may be about *for you.* That's not universal. And I doubt these women are procreating, they are just fornicating.

    Sex as being something you only do with someone you love is far from a universal idea, Mikey. Sometimes, it's just for fun.
     
  15. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Mikey, says who, right winged religious zealots. How can put yourself in the position to define under what conditions someone should have sex?
     
  16. satyr

    satyr New Member

    True and the majority of women today choose to pursue their education, so they can start careers and build resources of their own. Some of the women who sign up are college students who are looking for extra money, and that is perfectly fine.

    Not everyone has to follow the same path to get to where they want to go.

     
  17. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    BTW that quote is VERY presumptuous. He feels he's entitled to the attention and sexual favors of women, and is apparently rather irritated they are having sex with people other than him.

    WOMEN get to decide who, and under what terms, they sleep with. Just as men do. Women are not entitled to sex with a man, and men are not entitled to sex with a woman. It's a privilege, not a right. I'd say the guy in your quote apparently does not understand that.
     
  18. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    Perfectly stated. Thank you!
     
  19. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    You and TreePixie are right then, that's just my view. I (personally) wouldn't want to be with a woman who had done that previously.

    I'm sure there are better ways of trying to make extra money to pay down student debt instead of prostitution.
     
  20. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    For you, perhaps. For these women, it may have been the best paying job they could get, and allows them to pay that debt off quickly.

    You have a set of morals in which you apparently think a woman is not of value after she's had X number of partners, or if she's had sex for something other than love, Mikey. I hope that you're applying that same set of morals to yourself, and to other men, since you're universalizing them to all women.
     

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