Why do you pray?

AMEN!!!!!

Blessings to you my Christian sister, much blessings

 

This statement is not entirely accurate. According to Jesus, "And what ever you ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it." John 14:13-14.

There are several caveats to this scripture:

1. Jesus was not talking to the masses. He was speaking to his disciples - close, dear friends who chose to follow Him, absorbing His wisdom and adopting the principles that Jesus taught and lived by.

2. The reason Jesus would do what was asked in His name was so that it would glorify the Father through Him. If it didn't bring glory to the Father, Jesus wouldn't grant the desire.

3. Asking something in His name implied that what was being asked for lined up with who Jesus was.

Those who walk in close fellowship with Jesus and desire those things that bring glory to God can go confidently before the throne of grace and ask for things in Jesus' name and expect to receive. When and how is up to God. And that's where we humans often hit the wall of unbelief...

I'll step down from the pulpit now...

 

Back at ya! God bless!

 

If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer (Matthew 21:22).

With Christians it's only convenient to recognize that you're not being spoken to when certain doctrines conflict with your personal ideals or when your reality is threatened. For example, in the New Testament Timothy says that women should be silent and submissive and should never have authority over a man. So according to that, you and all of these other Christian women should not even be arguing with me. But likely, you'll tip-toe around that and say that Timothy was speaking to the women of that time.

 

I think there's something on your shoe......

 

The Limitations of Science

Scientific study is limited to organisms and processes that we are able to observe and measure. Supernatural and religious phenomena are beyond the realm of scientific analysis because they cannot be scientifically studied, analyzed, or explained. Supernatural explanations can be used to explain any result, and cannot be disproven by experiment or observation. Scientists in their work are limited to objective interpretations of observable phenomena.

A collection of related hypotheses that have been tested many times and not rejected is called a theory. A theory indicates a higher degree of certainty; however, in science, nothing is "certain".



Carry on...

 

DJ, once again you are making the mistake of pulling a scripture verse out of context: The verse in Matthew was directed at Jesus' disciples and demonstrates that if one truly has faith in God, he will be able to receive what he asks for. Read the whole story for which this scripture is the conclusion.

In addition, Timothy says absolutely nothing in the New Testament. Paul, however, tells Timothy that, in corporate worship (again, read the surrounding scriptures), he does not allow women to teach or have authority over men, that they should learn in quietness and submission. (Timothy 2:11-12). These were instructions Paul was giving the church outlining how the body was to conduct themselves, and the next set of scriptures say why.

The Bible also tells us to beware of false prophets and those who teach false doctrine or spout scientific bs. (That's not a direct quote.)

 

If I remember correctly, the Bible also warns against eating shellfish and wearing blended fabrics. I have asked a number of men over the years who have pulled those verses out to "prove" women are supposed to be submissive, if they avoid shellfish and blended fabrics. Perhaps not so surprisingly, none of them has ever answered me.

 

Be specific and cite verses.

 

Eek. I'd have to venture into the basement and figure out which crate of books my bible is in.

 

Agreed, though some of the people I know still say that while it means both are submissive to the other, all decisions should ultimately be made by the man.

I'm too ornery for that, I'd rather hash things out until both parties can come to an agreeable compromise.

My folks had an interesting way of looking at it - whoever it was most important to "won" the argument and their opinion held sway

 

Leviticus 11:12 and Deuteronomy 22:11.

Both are in the Old Testament and were instructions given to the Israelites to set them apart from other nations.

 

Agreed. A good manager *leads*, they don't push. They don't have to.

 

Thank you!

 

Tamstrong has acquired the Godhand and an extra Heart Container. The Godhand will allow Tammy to draw unspeakable wrath from the angel Gabriel in the form of a celestial beam. Shake the Wiimote for maximum damage.

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[FONT=&quot]Correct. A theory does indicate a higher degree of certainty – a level of certainty that’s incomparable to mythistory. This is basically the same type of ploy that Wendy Wright tried to use on Richard Dawkins. When she told him that evolution is only a theory, he tried to explain to her that the earth revolving around the sun is also a theory: a theory that has withstood the test of time (despite the fact that people like Galileo were persecuted for espousing it) and it’s practically accepted as fact. [/FONT]

 

I’m familiar with the story of the fig tree and I’ve actually referenced it before. My question to you is: if getting prayers answered only applies to his disciples then why is it in the book? It’s clear that the parable was inserted in order to impress the magnificence and charity of Christ on others. If you want to be technical, the whole Bible is taken out of context, as it’s essentially directed at people who lived at a different time, spoke a different language, and had different social and political views. As I say, I’m used to people selectively deciding which outdated text is or isn’t directed at them. If you think that you’re original in your ‘only disciples’ retorts, think again.

It’s mainly based on the story of Adam and Eve. It was the “woman who was deceived and became a sinner”. Most Christians however will disregard Paul and Timothy at this particular juncture (you obviously do too, because you’re still arguing with me). Take Joyce Meyer for example. She’s one of the most outspoken, bestselling Christian speakers of our day.

Haha. Nice try but atheism is a non-prophet organization.