Charges Being Dropped Against Dominique Strauss-Kahn

Discussion in 'In the News' started by karmacoma., Aug 23, 2011.

  1. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    Damn!!:smt005:smt005:smt005. Any way this rape thing is always the battle of the sexes and people refuse to look beyond their myopia. Isn't there a recording of her talking on phone with her convicted husband and discussing the financial benefits of the case if she cried rape? Did she not go to clean another room before making this accusation? Is the District Attorney's office that corrupt that they will decide to throw out the case if it was a good one just because this wealthy french man can pay them all off? The fact that the man has allegedly raped other females which is yet to be proven though should not be used against him . The facts of the case just doesn't merit wasting the taxpayers money and this has got nothing to do with her illegal background.( I still believe Mike Tyson was not guilty of rape):cool:
     
  2. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    No, none of that matters. He's got a dick, he's guilty.
     
  3. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    :smt005now, lippy knows why he is so pissy today...i wasn't the only one that called him on his women bashing...
     
  4. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    agreed on the first comment...lippy isn't going to take it personal anymore because he has been picking on everyone lately

    agreed on the second comment...he raped her...he is getting away with it...he is rich and powerful...she is just a maid...i hope she wins her civil suit...
     
  5. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member


    Prosecutors Overdid

    Prosecutors oversold the case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Now they're overselling the case against his accuser.
    By William Saletan
    Posted Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2011, at 8:55 AM ET

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Nafissatou Diallo
    The Manhattan district attorney's office has filed a motion to dismiss the sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn. The motion accuses the alleged victim, Nafissatou Diallo, of a "pattern of untruthfulness" marked by "shifting and inconsistent versions" of their encounter in a New York hotel. But the same can be said of the DA's office. Having exaggerated the case against Strauss-Kahn, prosecutors are now exaggerating the case against Diallo. Here are four elements of their story that don't add up.

    1. Room 2820. The DA's motion accuses Diallo of "continued conflicting accounts" of the incident. It says she told prosecutors three different versions of what she did after being assaulted: one version prior to June 28, a second version on June 28, and a third version on July 27. But if you read the first and third versions (on Pages 11-13 of the motion), you'll see that they don't differ much: In the third version, unlike the first, she said that after being assaulted in Room 2806 of the hotel, she opened Room 2820 briefly to retrieve her cleaning supplies. The only serious puzzle is the June 28 version. Here's how the DA's report describes it:
    [A]fter leaving the defendant's room, she had gone directly into another room (2820) to finish cleaning it. She gave specific details, saying that she had vacuumed the floor and cleaned the mirrors and other furniture in that room. She further stated that after completing her tasks in Room 2820, she had returned to the defendant's suite and began to clean it as well.
    This version is plainly wrong: Electronic records show that Diallo opened the doors of 2820 and 2806 in the same minute, which wouldn't have given her time to do all that cleaning of 2820. But did she really tell this farfetched story? In an interview with ABC News, taped shortly before July 24, Diallo attributed the false version to mistranslation. In the 33rd minute of the interview, she said that 1) prosecutors used a different translator on June 28, 2) they asked her if she had spat out Strauss-Kahn's semen in Room 2820, 3) she told them she hadn't, since she had already cleaned that room, and 4) she told them she had opened Room 2820 to get her supplies. It's easy to see how a mistranslation could have happened: Diallo described how she had cleaned Room 2820, and the prosecutors, through the translator, thought she was saying she had done this after the assault, when she reopened its door.
    The DA's motion rejects this explanation. It says that Diallo showed an ability to understand English and that she didn't correct the interpreter's translation. It adds that on July 27,
    As to the statements that the complainant had made on June 28, she denied making them, and asserted that they must have been mistranslated by the interpreter or misunderstood by prosecutors. But that claim is not believable in light of the extensive follow-up questioning about these events. … Critically, her willingness to deny having made those statements to the very same prosecutors who had heard her make them on June 28 calls her credibility into question at the most fundamental level.
    This is hugely important. In this passage, the prosecutors are basically saying that Diallo lied about what happened in a room with them on June 28, and therefore they can't trust her account of what happened in a room with Strauss-Kahn on May 14. But where's the evidence that Diallo delivered the June 28 account as they're reporting it? Did they record the conversation? If so, release the audio or transcript.


    2. The Guinea rape. The DA's motion says that in interviews with prosecutors on May 16 and May 30, Diallo described having been gang-raped by soldiers in her native Guinea. The report says "she offered precise and powerful details about the number of her attackers," their mistreatment of her daughter, and the scars she got from the assault. Then, on June 8 and 9, she "admitted to prosecutors that she had entirely fabricated this attack" as part of her application for U.S. asylum. This, according to the DA, shows a dismaying "ability to recount … fiction as fact with complete conviction."
    That's pretty damning. But in the fine-print footnote below this denunciation, the DA says that in her June 9 and June 28 interviews, Diallo
    stated that she had indeed been raped in the past in her native country, but in a completely different incident than the one that she had described in her earlier interviews. Our interviews of the complainant yielded no independent means of investigating or verifying this incident.
    In other words, she did not say that the rape was "entirely fabricated." She changed the details. That doesn't excuse her dishonesty. But it does narrow the extent to which she has shown a willingness to lie—not to mention the obvious difference between sending an innocent man to jail and distorting a bygone rape by unnamed assailants to get asylum.
    And that, in turn, raises questions about the DA's candor. In a June 30 letter, the DA's office said Diallo "states that she would testify that she was raped in the past in her native country but in an incident different than the one that she described during initial interviews." In the motion to dismiss, however, the DA calls her second account of the rape a "completely different incident." By inserting the word "completely," the DA's office bolsters its claim she "entirely fabricated" the rape. On what basis does the DA justify this inflation of its allegation? The motion to dismiss cites no further interviews with Diallo, and it admits that the DA hasn't investigated the purported Guinea rape. The only basis for saying she lied is her retraction. But we have no idea how much of the initial account she retracted. Let's see the details.
    3. The phone call. On July 1, the New York Times described a phone call Diallo received from an incarcerated friend a day after the Strauss-Kahn incident:
    Investigators with the Manhattan district attorney's office learned the call had been recorded and had it translated from a "unique dialect of Fulani," a language from the woman's native country, Guinea, according to a well-placed law enforcement official. When the conversation was translated—a job completed only this Wednesday—investigators were alarmed: "She says words to the effect of, 'Don't worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I'm doing,' " the official said.
    The leaker wasn't named. But in an affidavit filed yesterday, Diallo's lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, reports a strikingly similar characterization by prosecutors:
    On June 30, 2011, Assistant District Attorneys Daniel Alonso and Joan Illuzzi-Orbon called [Diallo's] counsel and stated that [she] had been captured on tape talking about [Strauss-Kahn] with that prisoner a day after the sexual assault and said words to the effect, "Don't worry. This guy has a lot of money. I know what I'm doing."


    Four weeks ago in the DA's office, with the aid of a Fulani interpreter hired by the DA, Thompson listened to the recording of the phone call and emerged with a very different account. He said that 1) Diallo received two calls but didn't place any, 2) she never brought up Strauss-Kahn's wealth as lawsuit bounty, 3) her friend did so, but she told him to stop, 4) she mentioned Strauss-Kahn's wealth and power only in the context of fearing him, and 5) when she said, "I know what I'm doing," she was talking about her safety, not about legal strategy. This fits the account Diallo previously gave to ABC News.
     
  6. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    The DA's motion to dismiss offers no substantive rebuttal to Thompson's description of the phone call. Instead, it says that after Diallo "professed to have no interest in obtaining money" from the case, she "had a recorded conversation with her incarcerated fiancé, in which the potential for financial recovery in relation to the May 14, 2011 incident was mentioned." A footnote adds that two translations of the call were "materially similar in their discussion of making money with the assistance of a civil lawyer." From this, the DA concludes that her "disavowal of any financial interest is relevant to her credibility." And a "law enforcement official involved in the investigation" tells the Times, according to the paper's paraphrase, that the phone call "signified another episode of Ms. Diallo's not being forthright."
    Not being forthright? That's rich. First these officials told the Times that Diallo essentially said: "This guy has a lot of money. I know what I'm doing." Then, when the recording didn't match their description, they rephrased everything in the passive voice—there were "discussions" in which money "was mentioned"—so that they could obscure who said what and continue to imply that she had undisclosed financial motives.
    The official who says Diallo wasn't forthright about the phone call also tells the Times that there can be (this is a quote) "no question as to the substance of the conversation." Really? That sounds like more passive-voice fudging to me. Let's hear the conversation. The DA has the recording. Release it.
    4. The bank transactions. The motion to dismiss says Diallo "failed to disclose a stream of cash deposits—totaling nearly $60,000—that were made into her checking account" by people in four states. (It doesn't say how many people made these deposits.) It says Diallo affirmed that her friend had sometimes asked her to withdraw cash from the account and deliver it to his business partner. Given the sums involved, the motion conveys incredulity that she "claimed not to know how much money had gone through her account in this fashion."
    That's funny, because the DA's office apparently didn't know how much had gone through the account, either. On June 30, the Times reported that according to "well-placed law enforcement officials," various people had "made multiple cash deposits, totaling around $100,000, into [Diallo's] bank account over the last two years." Now that number is down to $60,000. If the first number was wrong, why should we believe the second?
    I still wouldn't convict Strauss-Kahn, given what we know so far. But I wouldn't exonerate him, either. I certainly wouldn't do so based on this shifty, unsubstantiated, heavily spun report from the DA. We've already been suckered once by these prosecutors. Let's not make the same mistake twice.
     
  7. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Glad the charges were dropped since he was obviously innocent. This women was obviously full of shit and hopefully she gets some punishment for it.
     
  8. satyr

    satyr New Member

    Pretty sleazy way to score political points, but I'll bite.

    The inconsistent details of maid's account were largely minor like what room she entered after the alleged assault. Nonetheless small things like that would surely make Kahn's legal team pounce in a courtroom.

    Secondly, a "brotha" was accused of rape by a white female and walked; his name is Kobe Bryant and he was arrested in a state known for a lower burden of proof for rape convictions. More than anything else this further highlights the confluence of wealth and power as major players in American jurisprudence.
     
  9. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    :rolleyes:
    STFU peckerwood..
     
  10. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    Most likely it was a setup from the Sarkozy people.
     
  11. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    Damn, that would be some powerful strings to pull.

    But reports from France were he was favored to possibly win the French Presidential elections, so who knows. Power will make folks do crazy things to achieve it or maintain it.
     
  12. TheHuntress

    TheHuntress Well-Known Member

    No, he wasn't. And no, she wasn't. Her life is ruined because she couldn't afford the big, fancy lawyers that he could, and he gets to go back to his mansion in France. It's fucked up, and DSK deserves to rot in hell. I hope the next woman he rapes bites his dick off and feeds it to a piranha.

    I agree. That's what makes me so mad....and it's one of the things that frustrates me about cases of the Haves vs Have Nots. The system is broken.

    I heard that, too, but I think it's a desperate reach. People will say anything. Hell, people were accusing the Royal Family in England of plotting to kill Princess Diana. Come on...
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Why is that so hard to believe? The royals have plotted against and killed each other since the beginning of the monarchies. They've started wars amongst nations for less they're spoiled disgusting people who don't value life so it's not a far reach to me.
     
  14. TheHuntress

    TheHuntress Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about the Royals, or christians in general? Cause I could swear you just got them confused......
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Why do you defend people who wouldn't even piss on you if you were thirsty. At least most Christians are of a compassionate mind and heart. They tend to be more charitable and giving. Can some be closed minded? Yes but if you actually look at most of them they're good people. Can you say that about the royals? Absolutely not. News flash DB sticking up for them all the time won't make you one of them.
     
  16. TheHuntress

    TheHuntress Well-Known Member

    My point was more blood has been shed and more wars have been fought in the name of God than anything else on this earth. You want to point fingers, man, the Vatican is easy enough to find.
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    First of all more wars have been fought in the name of fundamentalist fanaticism and God was used as the reason. It was a bunch of rich people (mainly the royals look it up) using religion as a way to galvonize the less educated poor to fight for their conquest of land. Manifest destiny ring a bell, if it doesn't I'm sure a lot of native Americans can remind you about it.
    You're intelligent enough to know the difference between zealots and people who genuinely try to lead Christ like lives.
    I wish they would amend that saying that more people have been killed in the name of God nonsense. It's inaccurate more people have been killed in the name of Democracy, conquest, and all out greed by themselves than for God.
    What was the last war fought for God? The Crusades? Maybe the Spanish Inquisition?

    And why is it so easy to believe that the rich would manipulate the system so that an alleged rapist could get away but they wouldn't kill Princess Diana?
    Why is that far fetched?
     
  18. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Dreaming Blue probably still thinks the Duke lacrosse team is guilty of allegedly raping that stripper:smt043
     
  19. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    Well they had penises, right? RIGHT????
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I feel for women who look at as men as the enemy. Sounds like a life of lonliness to me.
     

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