Racism and sexism: how are they different?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Nerdy Girl, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. z

    z Well-Known Member

    LMAO @ Miley Cyrus gif.
     
  2. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    If you had been here for longer than a minute, you would know that I don't want anyone to pander to me. My viewpoints are much to centered for that sort of non-sense. But, if something walks like a duck, it's usually a duck...

    GIF's can never replace cogent and thoughtful posts by real people.
     
  3. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    The moment she drew the comparison between who has it harder black men or black women, something was afoot.

    But I acknowledged her and kept having a discourse thinking she was level headed, but she seems to be driven to espouse her iridescent views.

    What is interesting is she doesn't know the folks around here and is tossing out assumptions about them left and right without the history to the respective posters and their views.

    That is a tad bit odd and presumptous.
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

  5. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

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  6. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    :smt042
    He kills me. Highly recommend his stand up for all of ya.
     
  7. AlmostThere

    AlmostThere Active Member

    Chinese and Indians are not doing better overall. They are doing better on some metrics (education, employment, etc). Ask a Chinese or Indian man how he feels and many times they will lament about being invisible socially.

    Asian men don't benefit from male priviledge any more than Black men do. They have been also marginalized but in a different way. As the stereotypes go BM = small brain, big dick, fun : AM = big brain, little dick, dull. One result of the marginalization is the high amount of Asian Female/White Male couples.

    You using them as a positive example might be one of the biggest banes of their existance. Think about how bad it must feel as an Asian man to be told that they are doing things right, yet still managed to be ignored when it counts, which is the rest of the time?
     
  8. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    ...or if myight be a Swan or a Goose. They all waddle when walking.

    Also, how is that logic any different from a police officer stopping a black man. You call it racism, he calls it "if it walks like a duck".
     
  9. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    HAHAHA!
     
  10. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    His girlfriend is black. Maybe I'm him.
     
  11. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    So you're saying my points towards why BW have it harder wasn't founded? You couldn't even think of a retort. All you said is...."somethings afoot"....your brain perhaps?

    You still couldn't answer the question as to what you're doing to help black people and just brushed it off because you're doing......nothing.

    The truth can sometimes sting.
     
  12. GQ Brotha

    GQ Brotha New Member

    No my point is your arguments were just the concepts utilized by insecure black women as to their role in American society.

    Once again in case you missed it why do I have to do something to help "black people"

    Would you ask a white person what they do to help white people, would you ask an Asian person what they do to help Asian people.

    What is so special about me as a black man that I have to help black people.

    I don't feel anyone owes me jack squat and neither do I owe anyone.

    So the whole "what are you doing argument is null and void"

    I pay my taxes like every American has to or get audited, that should be more than enough.
     
  13. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    I understand all of that. Many Asains HATE whites.

    The difference is that. If a black men showed the same tenacity towards education and business, they would have a larger impact than Asians. As there is less black people in the world (8% last time I checked), also, Africa has most of the MUCH needed resourses.

    Many here have said that BM with a degree still get ignored. Probablem being...too many DON'T have a degree in the first place. Clearly the BM here want WW. If more BM showed that tenacity towards business success as Asians, many WW would fall at your feet. Sorry, but you cannot be ana average joe, doing an average jub yet expect a 7 out of 10 of higher WW to want to be their for the long haul and listen to your woes everyday. When 'better' could be had.

    Lets just keep it 100% honest.
     
  14. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Indeed. I fully understood what you were doing. If you give them enough rope they usually hang themselves. That pompous attitude reveals a lot though doesn't it?
     
  15. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    COME ON NOW, you know it goes deeper than that.


    Didn't Chris Rock address something like this.
    A white man gets rich, he makes other people rich. Walmart. A black man gets rich he spends it on spinning rims.

    The point is a white man will make other whites rich while a black man will be selfish.

    Thats what you're displaying here. "Why did I have to do it?"

    Why did Bill Gates have to create Microsoft? He was already wealthy, he didn't need the money....but he did it.

    P.S. Tazes mean NOTHING. The average person spends $600,000 in a lifetime on taxes. That would pay Kobe Byrant salary for a month.

    You have to do better than that.
     
  16. JennyArt

    JennyArt Restricted

    You keep doing it. Why do I have to PANDER to your feelings?
     
  17. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    LOL she went from cute English chic who posted pics of British IR couples and party girls to angry American white man. Quite a transformation!
     
  18. AlmostThere

    AlmostThere Active Member

    I don't disagree with much of what you said, but I think you are missing the point.

    If degrees and business acumen are so important then why aren't WW hooking up with Asian men like White men are with Asian women?

    Why are you on a Black Men/White Women board and not on a Asian Men/White Women board? What do Black men have that Asian Men don't that makes them more interesting to you (for you to be here), inspite of you stating that Asian men have what you want (degrees and money) and Black men don't have as much of? If you believe Chinese and Indians are doing better overall, then why don't you want one?
     
  19. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    I think you're missing the point. It's not being selfish at all. In this day and age, no black person should have to do anything in the name of equality. There is absolutely no reason that black men should not be equal to your precious white men on the sole basis of being black.

    Yes, white men do make other white men rich. Do you not see the problem in that? It shouldn't be an 'us' vs. 'them' society... if the name of equality, you should maybe considering jumping down the throat of those who continue the practices that contribute to a separatist society instead. The point is for equality, not favoritism. By waking up a black man and living each day by wholesome morals and ethics.,. that in itself SHOULD be enough. Nobody is asking for handouts here, just fair and equal treatment.
     
  20. z

    z Well-Known Member

    What is an average job?
     

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