Women Damaged by Gay Father growing up.

You can say that all you like, but the truth remains. With you having intense hatred for gays, focus on the abuse aspect. If we even let you go one step farther, you would go into your anti-gay bashing, which is the sole basis of your perverse agenda.

 

Back to the subject of the "the March", since you still have never returned to that thread to answer the question of whether or not that the black man you used in your neo nazi/white supremacist style rhetoric "Black Pride /Wake Up" rant was indeed the one I replied about, now are we expected to rob the white owned banks for money to buy both the uniforms & the guns or are we expected to rob gun shops as well to get the guns to use in the march? Just want that little detail cleared up if you please......

 

That is extremely young, but I have heard of babies being raped that recall it, as odd as that sounds.

I found her comment that growing up her feminine/female identity was ignored by them, while male identity was revered in her household was something that I was not aware of, which tells me it's effects is being largely ignored/hidden(?) by the pro-gay parents community.

 

At that age, she would very well be aware that her dad was being "attacked" by the other dad, but wouldn't understand anything about sex. The whole video is sickening especially since the vast majority of gays adopting children have proven to be just as effective as a two parent heterosexual households due to love and care.

 

There are also tons of gay and lesbian parents raising their own and or their partner's biological children without a problem. Either the children were born from earlier relationships, or sperm donation/surrogacy were used in the creation of the embryos.

I have a friend who loves being pregnant and has acted as a surrogate for several sets of gay men - in some cases providing surrogacy for both partners, so the children have the same biological mother and are biological half-siblings.

Why is it so hard for some people to get the simple truth that the ONLY difference between straight people and not straight people is who they're sexually attracted to?

 

It would be nice if the gay author/s of your articles would use a more current APA study than one 10 years old. Curious for update stats.

So are you sickened by this woman's video, as in empathy?

 

People are simply ignorant. Plain and simple. And they see things from a distance without really looking into it completely. I remembered a documentary on one of the prime time news shows in which there were two fathers raising twin daughters and you couldn't imagine how well educated these children were. Because of the parents, they've:

- Managed to skip a grade due to their home education at an early age.
- Speaks Spanish fluently at the age of 3 years old. (White family mind you)
- Pretty decent knowledge in botany.

Among all that, they are VERY cultured individuals and are raised in a loving household.

 

From the NYTimes

What's good for the kids?

By LISA BELKIN
Published: November 5, 2009
It has been apparent for a while now that we live in child-centric times. We approach parenting with a single-mindedness that baffles our own parents, and certainly their parents, who thought children should be seen and not heard. We think it’s just fine to put our kids ahead of our careers, our relationships, our social lives, and even if we aren’t doing so, everyone around us seems to be.

Source: The Williams Institute, U.C.L.A.
We demand that public policy — on health care, or education, or stimulus money — consider the needs of children as surely as it does the needs of doctors, teachers and businesses. (I am not saying that public policy makers always respond, mind you, but “what about the children?” is certainly a rallying cry.) We devour research on how to build our children’s self-esteem, to keep them from being bullied and to expand their intellects.

It is striking, then, how comparatively rarely children are mentioned as an argument in favor of gay marriage. The issue is framed as a debate over equality and justice, of personal freedom and the relation of church and state, not about what is good for kids.

That’s partly because, until relatively recently, we didn’t know much about the children of same-sex couples. The earliest studies, dating to the 1970s, were based on small samples and could include only families who stepped forward to be counted. But about 20 years ago, the Census Bureau added a category for unwed partners, which included many gay partners, providing more demographic data. Not every gay couple that is married, or aspiring to marry, has children, but an increasing number do: approximately 1 in 5 male same-sex couples and 1 in 3 female same-sex couples are raising children, up from 1 in 20 male couples and 1 in 5 female couples in 1990.

This growth, coupled with the passage of time, means there is a large cohort of children who are now old enough to yield solid data. And the portrait emerging tells us something about the effects of gay parenting. It also contains lessons for all parents.

“These children do just fine,” says Abbie E. Goldberg, an assistant professor in the department of psychology at Clark University, who concedes there are some who will continue to believe that gay parents are a danger to their children, in spite of a growing web of psychological and sociological evidence to the contrary. Her new book, “Lesbian and Gay Parents and Their Children,” is an analysis of more than 100 academic studies, most looking at groups of 30 to 150 subjects, and primarily on lesbian mothers, though of late there is a spike in research about gay fathers.

In most ways, the accumulated research shows, children of same-sex parents are not markedly different from those of heterosexual parents. They show no increased incidence of psychiatric disorders, are just as popular at school and have just as many friends. While girls raised by lesbian mothers seem slightly more likely to have more sexual partners, and boys slightly more likely to have fewer, than those raised by heterosexual mothers, neither sex is more likely to suffer from gender confusion nor to identify themselves as gay.

More enlightening than the similarities, however, are the differences, the most striking of which is that these children tend to be less conventional and more flexible when it comes to gender roles and assumptions than those raised in more traditional families.

There are data that show, for instance, that daughters of lesbian mothers are more likely to aspire to professions that are traditionally considered male, like doctors or lawyers — 52 percent in one study said that was their goal, compared with 21 percent of daughters of heterosexual mothers, who are still more likely to say they want to be nurses or teachers when they grow up. (The same study found that 95 percent of boys from both types of families choose the more masculine jobs.) Girls raised by lesbians are also more likely to engage in “roughhousing” and to play with “male-gendered-type toys” than girls raised by straight mothers. And adult children of gay parents appear more likely than the average adult to work in the fields of social justice and to have more gay friends in their social mix.

Heterosexual couples might want to pay attention to these results. While the gay-marriage debate is playing out on the public stage, a more private debate is taking place in kitchens and bedrooms over who does what in a heterosexual marriage (takes out the trash, spends more time with the kids, feels free to head out with their friends for a beer). The philosophical underpinnings of both conversations — gay marriage and equality in parenting — are similar, in that both focus on equality for adults (in the case of heterosexuals, mostly wives). But even if parents who seek parity do so for their own sanity and in pursuit of their own ideals, might it not also be better for their children?

Yes, if less conventional, more tolerant children are your goal. Because if the children of gays and lesbians are different, it is presumably related to the way they were raised — by parents with a view of domestic roles that differs from most of their heterosexual peers.

Same-sex couples, it seems, are less likely to impose certain gender-based expectations on their children, says M. V. Lee Badgett, director of the Center for Public Policy and Administration at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and author of “When Gay People Get Married: What Happens When Societies Legalize Same-Sex Marriage.” Studies of lesbian parents have found that they “are more feminist parents,” she says, “more open to girls playing with trucks and boys playing with dolls,” with fewer worries about conforming to perceived norms.

They are also, by definition, less likely to impose gender-based expectations on themselves. “Same-sex parents tend to be more equal in parenting,” Goldberg says, while noting that no generalization can apply to all parents of any sexual orientation. On the whole, though, lesbian mothers (there’s little data here on gay dads) tend not to divide chores and responsibilities according to gender-based roles, Goldberg says, “because you have taken gender out the equation. There’s much more fluidity than in many heterosexual relationships.”

So while we arguably spend too much time focusing on children, when it comes to the topic of nontraditional marriage, maybe we should start focusing on them more. One of the few parenting conversations that is not child-centric might be well served to become so. These are questions of rights and equality for adults, yes, but also questions of what is good for the kids.

Lisa Belkin is a contributing writer and the author of the Motherlode blog.

 

The articles presented are fairly consistent with the findings presented currently. Unless there are new bits of information relating to LGBT adoptions, then there's no need for "updated" information since the reasons provided are consistent even to this day.

And secondly, I feel sorry for the girl, but the overall video is anti-gay adoption, which is poorly represented and very misleading. Anyone who look at this garbage as being credible are just as deluded as the bastards who are homophobic. Bad parenting is bad parenting regardless of sexual orientation. As long as the household can provide the proper nurturing environment, then that's all that matters. The girl in question was in a bad environment, plain and simple, yet simpletons are unwilling to see that.

 

Beautiful!

Excellent article! Wonderful find! I'd rep you if I could.

 

It's the thought that counts

 

My oh my...I wonder how much a ticket from Louisiana to Colorado would cost me, plus hotel stays for a week? I'd rather present you a little extra.

 

Yes, she was. And yet you provided links from "simpleton" gay authors who failed to mention or are unwilling to see that gays could harbor bad parental environments for children. Not surprised, since when the issue is addressed, it's shot down, as is evident here in this thread regarding her case.

 

How are scientific studies partisan exactly? The article has sited information based on what's knowable. And you can call it "liberal" if you like, but that's only synonymous with RATIONAL thinking. How would a conservative who's anti-gay argue it?

*Hint hint...watch the video on this thread* And that's purely based on bigotry. Hardly anything scientific.

Also, you jumped into the discussion without really analyzing the whole thread especially the original poster. If you did, your comment would be closer to the thread topic overall than a tongue-in-cheek comment.

 

They are relying on actual data, if you read the article. It's not an editorial

 

No jackass. No one's denying the fact that there are bad parenting regardless of sexual orientation. However, to think this thread is about that clearly overlook the original poster's typical homophobic rant. Look into the history of the original poster and you'll see that the idiot, let alone the video provided has an agenda that is morbidly misleading and you're willing to ignore that?

 

That's not the same. Limbaugh isn't an analyst. He's a political pundit and nothing more. Scientific research and studies on sexual orientation isn't based on any political agenda in any way shape or form. That's the issue with media plurality. People want to be entitled to their own facts, even though facts are presented to them easily through concrete research. Studies aren't simply numbers.

 

Read your post. Knowing you (and I really mean it too), you're capable of offering an opinion on the general subject matter and probably deduce the poster's agenda too.

 

I'm pretty sure it isn't. But here's a question for you...

Despite the vast majority of gay parents have children and are raising them in loving households, why are people fixated on the few bad parents in the country and then elevate them as the majority just to reinforce a backwards agenda?

 

Listen you dick slurper, I don't give TWO FUCKS about the OP's agenda. YOU clearly do, ONLY because is goes against your own wanna-be-fucked-deep-in-your-ass tendencies.

I keep saying it, I primarily FOCUS on TOPICS here. And the OP whoever he is, stated that its usually the GAYS that cry foul and get the attention, and YOU proved him right by discounting and not listening to the child's/now an adult's feelings. Even if she was speaking at an anti-gay rally, I would still IGNORE the surrounding agenda, because SHE ACTUALLY LIVED IT! Unlike you. Got that, JACKASS?!