Tiger's caddie is salty after being let go.

When Steve Williams stated to the media that Adam's win was the most satisfying of his caddying career, it was characterized as a "diss" by everyone, from players to the media. To put it in perspective, Tiger won more Major championships than all but one other player in the history of golf and he has won 71 tournaments overall. Adams has only had 8 wins, period. Considering the distinction of being one of the greatest players of all time, the motivation for Williams comment suggested that he was indeed "mad" at Tiger for firing him as his caddie.

 

I think after being fired after 12 years of service, you're bound to say things that you may regret. He's already stated that he's sorry he said as much as he did.
Though it looks like it didn't affect his future boss, since he's since been hired.

BTW, the pro golfer you quoted must have missed these caddie's books...





and here are several more titles...


The Caddie Who Knew Ben Hogan:

The Caddie Who Played with Hickory:

Caddy For Life: The Bruce Edwards Story:

Life of O'Reilly: The Amusing Adventures of a Professional Irish Caddy:

Distance to the Green: A Caddies Lesson in Life, Business, and Golf:

Riverbank Tweed and Roadmap Jenkins: Tales from the Caddy Yard:

Caddy Sense: Revelations on Playing the Game of Golf:

A Wee Nip at the 19th Hole: A History of the St. Andrews Caddy:

Men on the Bag: The Caddies of Augusta National:

Who's your Caddy: Looping for the Great, Near Great, and Reprobates of Golf:

Who's your Caddy: My Misadventures Carrying the Bag:

Bud Sweat and Tees: A Walk on the Wild Side of The PGA Tour:

Maybe it should have been a three iron': My Year as a Caddy for the 438th Best Golfer:

To The Linksland:

The Legend of Bagger Vance:

Fourteen Clubs and the Old Claret Jug:

The Bogey Man:

 

The comments minimizing Tiger's golf status didn't come until after he was hired. Williams has received negative criticism from other golfers and players as a result of those comments, and I believe he's fortunate that he continues to have a job. As for the future, if he and Adams part company, I guess we have to wait and see. But, based on comments, he had better hope that the players don't have long memories...

The point of avoiding talking to the media is that the job of a caddie is to support the player rather than take center stage. It's the golfer's talents that are responsible for the wins, and that allows the caddie to make a living. It's really not different than any other business or corporate job, the boss doesn't expect to be upstaged by a subordinate.

Typically, I wouldn't classify writing books as, "talking to the media". Notwithstanding that distinction however, once a caddie has retired he's not an employee and he's free to pursue any venture he chooses, including authoring books. I would be willing to bet that those books were NOT written during the caddie's working careers.

I totally disagree that most people, at least those who are professionals with ethics, would have anything negative to say about their bosses. This is especially true in the case of someone like Williams who reaped the benefit of huge salaries, gifts and many other benefits because of his association with Tiger.

The fact that he worked with Tiger changed his life financially and has opened doors in other areas for him as well. So, there's no reason why anything negative should have resulted when Tiger made a decision that his professional relationship with Williams should end.

 

The comments came the following day after he was fired by Tiger.
He was temporarily filling in with Scott while Tiger was hurt. Scott then officially hired him after he was fired.

I agree that their job is to support, and not take center stage. And yes, a subordinate should not upstage his boss. But is that what happened here?

He never talked to the media in 12 years. While I figured you would not see writing a book as talking to the media, it is in fact talking to/VIA the media..in stereo. Could you imagine if/when Williams announces he's writing a book? Your quoted annon golfer will pass out.
Once again, he DID not speak his opinions to the media until he was NO LONGER employed by Tiger. So he fulfills your prerequisites, no?

I disagree again, and say that people do speak ill of their boss when they get fired. Its got nothing to do with "ethics" - it's human nature. And it makes no difference "ethically" whether its said publicly or privately, either.

Let's examine the Woods/Williams scenerio. He said:

“You could say I’ve wasted the last two years of my life. I’ve stuck with Tiger and been incredibly loyal. I’m not disappointed I’ve been fired—that’s part of the job—but the timing is extraordinary. I am extremely disappointed, given that the last 18 months has been a particularly difficult time. With the scandals, a new coach, a swing change, I’ve stuck with him through thick and thin and been incredibly loyal—and then this happens. I wouldn’t ditch someone when the chips are down. I’ve stuck by Tiger and put myself and my family in a difficult position. I’m a very big stickler for loyalty and I stuck with Tiger through his difficult period when a lot of people thought I should have left his side. That was the most difficult period that I’ve ever been through in my life. I’m pretty hard headed and took it probably a lot better than my wife and family did, but there’s no way that I should have been put through that. My name should have been cleared immediately. It wasn’t and that’s what makes it even more disappointing what’s transpired. I, along with a lot of people, lost a lot of respect for Tiger [over his extra-marital affairs] and I pointed out before his return at the Masters at Augusta in 2010 that he had to earn back my respect. Through time I hope he can gain my respect back. He definitely needs to earn my respect again, that’s for sure."


Is that negative speak or him being hurt? Remember, people thought he was aware of Tiger's infidelities and covered for him. He mentions Tiger never cleared him of that suspicion, and if you notice he speaks repeatedly of unbridled loyalty. During those two years Williams was loyal and said nothing publicly...until he was fired.

 

If you review what I posted, you will note that the comments that people took most exception with, occurred on Sunday, after Scott's win when Williams went on the "I" and "me" tirade about Scott's win. Perhaps, you aren't aware of that?

It's precisely what happened IMO, Williams is upset that he can't ride the gravy train.

Again, I can't draw conclusions based on supposition. Williams has not announced that he's writing a book so we are talking conjecture again.

He definitely did not fulfill his prerequisites, as I already mentioned, because he's CONTINUES to be a working caddie.

Lol, I think that you are playing with words regarding books as "talking to the media, but that's not an important point.

Not speaking ill of a former boss has everything to do with you ethics. Perhaps, people making average salaries and struggling to meet their bills may find comfort in making disparaging remarks, but it's certainly not human nature. IMO, it's a failure of ethics. Ethics is about right and wrong and there's NO way to condone speaking negatively about someone who has changed your life for the better, supported you personally in your endeavors, provided a lifetime of security for your family and given you the opportunity to thrive through your association with him. This is classically a moral failing on Stevie's part.


The remarks that you refer to aren't the remarks from my discussion. But, to address your question, I think that even those remarks are "negative speak".

You are suggesting that somehow people can take conjecture, that people, assume or thought that Williams was aware of Tiger's infidelity, and then extrapolate that to provide a rationale for William's comments? Without knowing more, I could never draw any conclusions from suspicions.

It's more plausible, based on the narcissism shown in the after tournament win of Scott, that these remarks were equally prompted by that same selfish attitude. Throughout the remarks he talks only about how "he" was affected, his family was affected, how much loyalty was important to Steve. Most telling is his comment that he wouldn't, "dump someone when the chips are down". But, down for whom? But, that has nothing to do with him and everything to do with Tiger. Yet, he views the situation as though he's the who's most affected, rather than Tiger. For someone who was supposedly such a good friend, he doesn't seem to be paying much to the impact on Tiger, only himself.

It's difficult for me to see how or why he feels anything other than bitter and upset that Tiger made a decision to end a professional relationship with him. It's not as though he wasn't paid handsomely for those two years. It's not as though you don't expect to take the good with the bad as the fortunes and wins of players change. But, it seems that it's all about Stevie, and I think that unfortunate on many levels. He strikes me as someone who takes but doesn't give a lot. He sure took a lot from Tiger and now that the gravy train has ended he's upset. That's my take on it...

 

yeah, dont diss the last girlfriend/boyfriend you had....its not a good sign.

 

Looks like his true colors are showing

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...-williams-racist-remark-boss-article-1.972664

 

Talk about sour grapes,he will be canned for sure for those remarks.

 

At this point he just makes himself look bad, not Tiger.

 

I would like to know how Tiger really feels about this. It's amazing to know that you can be around people for years and never truly know who they are until they show their true colors.

 

Maybe that's why Tiger sacked him.

 

What a sucka!

No wonder Tiger fired his punk a**

If they dont ban this dude from golf then wtf