2,500 black journalists meet, take stock in Philly

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Bliss, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20110805_Black_journalists_gather__take_stock.html

    I trust their reporting more-so, because they tent to come from a place of uncovering the truth than be hushed by their superiors, as evident if you're a FOX reporter, for example (but that's another thread).
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

  4. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Arianna Huffington, once a far-right loon to a leftist activist. :) I think if I said "Thelo na se pidikso" to her, I'm sure she would slap the shit out of me.
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    That was because she was just standing by her (R) man (now gay). I kinda understand her running in the opposite direction, lol.

    And why would you tell her you'd want to "throw" her? :confused:
     
  6. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    That's a good call because according to her interview on NPR, it had more to do with political recourse and the actions of the conservative movement back in the 80s that drove her to more progressive ideals. I didn't know she was involved with a gay dude.

    Hmmm, if that were the case, then I'm sure Lauren Ingraham and Dick Cheney would be more progressive leaning too, given they have family who are gay.

    And, I'm pretty sure I actually said something along the lines of "I want to fuck you so hard." And that statement came from another Greek girl who currently resides in California, obtaining her license to practice neurosurgery in North America. How is that a throw?

     
  7. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Well he wasn't gay when she married the Congressman, nor when he ran for for the POTUS primary. I was joking sort of, because he hurt her by the revelation and it destroyed their marriage and since he was a Republican...

    Anyway, I don't know your sexual conversations with the Greek LA woman, but -
    thelo na kano erota mazi sou, is "I want to make love to/with you"
    OR
    thelo na sou yamisou, (or gamisou) is "I want to fuck you".

    Na so Petaxo? is "shall I throw you?"
    OR tha so pedixo is "I will throw you".

    Of course keep in mind that "pedixo" is phonetically written and not true Greek spelling, so its open to sound interpretation by me...or maybe that is another slang word for fuck, but I don't know it.
     
  8. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Truth be told, you can't change your sexual orientation. It's innate. He was either gay, but willing to hide it or simply couldn't come out for political reasons. There's a documentary called Outrage which delves into that very thing. I'm willing to say that it's the latter because he was a career politician and that very bit in the conservative movement would mean ride or die.

    And thank you for the clarification. To further go into, my friend is actually from Cyprus, but of Greek heritage. When I asked her how to say certain phrases, she gave me those. :p Ah well...I'm going to attempt this then. It'll be one wild ride. But still...

    Should I tell Arianna Huffington, "Thelo na kano erota mazi sou!" would would be the most likely reaction from her?

     
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  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    She would blush and laugh, I think. Erota is make love, and we view it as a compliment. Yamisou, not so much.

    I don't think its always we are born with it. Some people are sex addicts and delve into it, others just don't like being gay so they change it. There is a documentary or book called "Pray the gay away" something like that, and the guy and his wife make for fascinating interviewing. They were on Joy Behar and the man was a formerly gay and married now. Interesting stuff...
     
  10. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Praying away gay? That's nonsense. There are no studies nor evidence pointing out that you simply change your sexual orientation through prayer. The concept of prayer, in of itself is a fallacy and more of a psychological placebo.That's completely ridiculous.

    However, it does suppress your true sexual desires out of fear and that usually leads to depression, and even suicide. The cause of all that is through societal pressure based on what's deemed normal. That's more consistent in the findings relating to sexual orientation. Just because he "prayed his gay" away doesn't mean he's "cured". He's only suppressing his sexual desires and the only thing keeping him from going batshit insane is his insane devotion to a mutilated corpse nailed to cross.

    You're correct in a way, but not quite. It's biological, but also environmental factors contribute to one's sexual orientation. There's a book you need to order called "Human Sexuality Today" by Bruce M. King and he specializes in Human sexuality and the psychology behind it as well. I was actually one of his students at the university prior to his retirement. And his book goes into everything we know about sexuality and what we don't know.

     
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  11. botoan

    botoan Active Member

    Great post, Kuno. You are right, at least in regards to the older generation of Black journalist, they had to convince their editors that what occurred in the Black community truly mattered.

    Many worked or work for the 54 black owned media outlets where their views are paramount but, for those that don't they play an important role informing others about issues that otherwise may not be given due attention.
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    An unusual update...

    Activist Unmoved by Pleas from Association Leaders

    A miffed Rev. Al Sharpton canceled a Thursday appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention in Philadelphia because of comments by NABJ members questioning MSNBC's reported choice of the activist to host a 6 p.m. show on the network, according to NABJ.

    Roland Martin, the NABJ secretary, CNN, TV One and "Tom Joyner Morning Show" commentator, told attendees that he and NABJ President Kathy Y. Times told Sharpton that the comments, published in Journal-isms, represented the views of two members, not the entire NABJ membership of 3,400.

    "Rev. Sharpton took offense to the story that was written and thought that was the position of NABJ," Martin said. Despite their explanations to the contrary, "he was still upset by that and felt that by coming here and being a part, that would be the story," Martin said.

    Brian Stelter reported July 20 for the New York Times that "After giving a nearly six-month tryout for the Internet talk show host Cenk Uygur, the cable news channel MSNBC is preparing to instead hand its 6 p.m. time slot" to Sharpton.

    This column reported that "such a move would respond to complaints from the NAACP that 'currently, there are no African American hosts or anchors on any national news show, cable or broadcast network, from the hours of 5PM-11PM.'

    "But it is less likely to satisfy black journalists, who have continually criticized the networks for their failure to place journalists of color in these key prime-time slots.

    "When rumors surfaced this week that Sharpton was under consideration for the MSNBC job, one NABJ member told colleagues without challenge, 'This would still be just another non-journalist media "celebrity" receiving a TV show based upon their name recognition, not their years of experience, training, ability and talent.' "

    The comment, from Columbus, Ohio, blogger Jeff Winbush, reverberated around the Internet, and Sharpton reacted in an interview with Lynette Holloway published the next day on theRoot.com. "We can't get into a crabs-in-the-barrel mentality," Sharpton said.

    A July 21 news release from NABJ cast the issue as pro-journalist, not anti-Sharpton. Times said on July 24, "The issue is not whether Rev. Sharpton gets a show," and Winbush told Journal-isms then, "I was not attacking him personally. I bear him no ill will. I simply want to see Black journalists get a fair shot as well."

    Sharpton has continued to guest-host in the slot. The Washington Post's Lisa de Moraes reported Tuesday from the Summer TV Press Tour 2011 in Beverly Hills, Calif., that MSNBC President Phil Griffin "insisted that Sharpton is doing well guest-hosting the 6 p.m. time slot, which leads into MSNBC’s prime-time lineup.

    " 'No decision has been made yet,' said Griffin, who noted that Sharpton 'fits in with the MSNBC . . . sensibility.' "

    After hearing Martin's explanation, many journalists at the convention expressed surprise that Sharpton, who so often has sought out television cameras and microphones, would be so "thin-skinned," as one put it. Others have noted that the MSNBC evening lineup is devoid of journalists of any color as hosts and that Sharpton's hire could open opportunities for black journalists to work in other roles on the show.

    But Carole Simpson, the retired ABC News anchor, echoed Winbush in a telephone interview Wednesday with Mallary Jean Tenore of the Poynter Institute.

    "[Sharpton] was not a journalist. It seems like having a name is more important than your credentials and the news you’ve covered, and how well you did as a reporter and how much you did as a thinker and writer about the issues of the day," she said. "Who’s going to get the eyeballs? … That’s the bottom line. It’s all about eyeballs. It’s the drive for ratings.

    "I have nothing against the Rev. Al. I’ve known him for years. I’ve covered him, but he doesn’t sound like a professional broadcaster. Somebody sounding like that wouldn’t typically be hired by any station. Yeah, as a pundit. He’s an intelligent man. I give him credit for that. But he doesn’t sound like a professional broadcaster.

    "But he’s controversial, he’s provocative, he yells, and so they’re looking for personalities and not journalists. The problem that I have, as NABJ has, is fine — hire somebody of color — but how about a journalist? Not a reverend. I don’t get it."

    Sharpton has not responded to inquiries from Journal-isms.
     
  13. botoan

    botoan Active Member

    A reverend without a congregation, just like Jesse Jackson. I prefer a real journalist myself.
     

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