Do nice guys finish last?

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worn out subject but will say....nice guys finish last but they finish best....if they do it rite

 

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My thought is a bad boy for a time to play,,,,a good boy for real love...so the nice guy does get the girl

 

There are two types of "nice guys", the pushover who has a hard time arousing a woman and the calm soft spoken "nice guy who analyzes every situation and reacts appropriately but still know how to treat a woman. Often times, women mistakenly lump these two types of men into one catagory.

And no offense to the ladies on the forum here, but women give men the worst advice on how to treat other women. I used to be the shy type of kid up to my sophomore year in high school. And my mom and some of the girls I used to be good friends with would tell me what I should do to get a girl to like me. They would tell me to do stuff like hold doors open, do something nice for them, and just tell them how you feel. Well, none of that worked and my older brother and my dad eventually showed me how to talk to other women.

I didn't go out of my way to be an asshole, but I became indifferent(if you like me fine, if not then whatever). And my luck with women skyrocketed from there. If you're guy between the ages of 17-25, women our age of women won't be mature enough to respond to kindness and sensitivity.

What I found out is that most women tell you what you SHOULD do instead of what you HAVE to do.

1. Be chivalrous and treat her with dignity and respect

Alot of young women these days feel that chivalry is lame. And if you go out of your way to be a gentleman towards her she may think you're soft or ahe won't know how to react since she isn't used to other guys doing this type of stuff for her. And the women who told me to do this ended up getting with guys who acted like they didn't give two shits about them. I'm only going to act chivalrous if the woman I'm dating is older and mature enough appreciate my gentlemanly type gestures.

2. Just let her know how you feel.
Letting a girl know how feel about her right away would technically be the right thing to do. However, as she will feel that you wern't enough of a challenge for her. Now, if a girl sends me signals that she is intersted, I'll do subtle things such as look in their eyes and speak a little more slowly. But, I'll wait a little longer before I tell them I'm interested in them.

 

Great post! Chivalry is a lost art these days. Guys are simply not showing more of it. A little chivalry goes a long way.

 

yes

 

It's true more guys aren't showing more chivalous qualities, but then again younger women aren't responding to it. I can't tell you how many times I used to hold open doors for women; only to have most of them to stare daggers at me. That's where these qualities start, in young adulthood.

 

Right. Train up a child when he's young, and when he's old he won't stray from the path. Sad to say, hardly any one's been taken down this path. I just don't get it.

 

I have always done those things, always...(and I'm not being argumentative either.) and I have always (quote)(/quote) finished first. To most people I am indifferent, but to a woman I like and am interested in I treat differently then the rag tag run of the mill females., respectful, chivalrous if you will. I am always direct, always forward because that is my personality but I am always NICE to women I am interested in.

The thing is you can't do those things and expect that the women will like you because of them. Those women who were not used to being treated with respect, and civility I never wasted my time on because I knew they had no concept of it (and usually are the women who were not raised by their fathers).

I believe this is all a cop out. I have always been nice, respectful, sweet if you women to women I was interested in. Even if all I wanted was some good sex, and I've never come short. Some women just aren't into you but people use that so say "See I was nice to her and she didn't like me so I'm going to act like an ass hole"

bah...I disagree.

 

This makes me cry.

 

Of course they do if they ask defeatist questions like this. One thing to remember guys is never give what isn't earned. Whether she likes you or not is irrelevant but how you,, feel about it will be proportioned to how much you invest. Ya dig

 

So nice guys get the girl after the bad boys use them up? Comforting lol.

 

Co-sign

 

No my friend LOL.....Just because you date a bad boy doesn't mean that you let them use you......it does take expereince and or maturity to realize that you DO want a ncie guy, then you don't settle for a bad boy.

 

Sorry... It has just been that listening to a watching the women I know, regardless of age, race, or nationality, that everyone of them has tried a bad boy at least once. But in the end we all want a nice man.

 

This is why its just better not to date seriously when you're young because no one knows what they want and in the process emotionally scar the hell out of people. Bottom line as a guy being nice when your young is friend zone material all the way.

 

I agree that it's better not to date seriously if you don't know what you want. But age doesn't have anything to do with it. People who come out of long term relationships often don't know what they want and should not seriously date either.

 

I think constantly being lied to is what annoys a lot of men at least women know what it is with guys. Guys are constantly being told "be nice", "tell her how you feel", "fight for her","find out her interests" when all it really boils down to is she knew whether or not she was gonna give it up to you in the first 30 seconds so everything else is moot. Just don't anything and make her laugh and she's all yours.
I seriously should be published lol

 

Who tells you guys this stuff????? I like to do fun and simple things when I'm dating....tonight for example I'm going on a date to Harvard Square to a wine and coffee bar and then probably for a walk. I think both genders basically just want to be treated with respect and dignity.