Goldigger vs. Wanted Someone Financially Stable

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by stiletoes, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. Bestofjoy

    Bestofjoy New Member

    What do you find interesting about this?
     
  2. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    All I know is that men dont give a fuck how much a woman makes. Unlike a lot of females, we just dont care about that shit. You could be working at Arby's for all I care, as long as you're hot its all good to me lol
     
  3. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    Right...it's all about what she looks like. How is that any less shallow than a woman who is looking for a "good provider?"
     
  4. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Never said it was any less shallow I'm just saying that guys NEVER care about how much a women makes period. We handle our own business and dont look for a provider. If she's hot with a nice personality, then I dont care if she works at Arby's.

    I do find it funny that so called "strong independent women" need a man with a sig figure salary or higher. Its just funny to me.:D
     
  5. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Iggy, that is untrue - perhaps men in your age bracket don't care,
    I can tell you first hand that many, many men DO care what the woman makes. Especially if the woman makes more, plenty of men that say they don't have issues with that, but in the end, cant handle it.
     
  6. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    I'm a strong independent woman, and I don't need a man, period. I like having one around, but how much he makes has nothing to do with whether or not I'd be with him. I can make my own money.
     
  7. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    that would explain your practical attitude toward this issue. you hung in there and did the right thing. and im sure both you and your man are better off for it.

    this reinforces what im saying. about foreign women vs american. you are patient and you care. i hope and pray your man shows his appreciation for your positive attitude.

    TOO many of us men feel bad because we are not "rich" enough to be a "financial partner" because that's what relatioships are now. they're a business deal / trade that occasionally involves intimacy. But its more about status seeking than needing intimacy and empathy.

    this is not entirely true, but i know what you mean.
     
  8. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I have no doubt that there're men who are insecure with women who make more than they do, at any age. However, there're plenty of secure professional men for whom it's a non-issue as well. I certainly wouldn't have a problem if I was in that position.
     
  9. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    I only said that Iggy's "never" is not true.
     
  10. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    this is true. and its just a cultural phenomenon / problem and an issue that is complex. i have to admit that i'm guilty of some of that. i try to not put myself in situations with certain women, so that my ego doesn't feel as bruised. its actually not that hard to avoid those situations.

    I feel this article here tries to discuss the issue.

    http://laura1318.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/why-successful-attractive-women-are-scary-to-men/

    Again alot of men subconciously know they can't emotionally handle a alpha female woman who is mega successful and they try to reach out to women from foreign countries. why?

    its a combo economics and culture really.

    What would be considered middle class here in the u.s.a - would be considered rich in other places of the world.

    some men understand this because they want to create a situation for themselves where they're with a woman who wants them to lead in the relationship in all ways. I know its flawed in many ways, but a woman who is uber successful is very intimidating to some men.

    And at the same times its about how that woman carries the "i'm successful" thing. in my experience most mega successful women are snobs who live in fast paced business world - who have really big egos and aren't very feminine. sure they may be attractive women. simply put they're women who have a very masculine attitude towards doing things. but that's not all super successful women, that's just my experience.

    i think women like the kind in this video below are an example.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i1bqLZZX4M

    But the aggressive business woman that they have to be - to make the big bucks takes away anything that would turn a man on emotionally. i know its flawed but hey its true super successful women who are real pretty have a hard time sometimes.

    i mean compare these women here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZymFMmpOa0

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1050094/Men-want-women-traditional--women-HAPPY-housewife.html

    its an issue.





    this is the reason why global dating has become very popular.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2011
  11. Bestofjoy

    Bestofjoy New Member

    Totally...Couldnt have said it better myself
     
  12. Bestofjoy

    Bestofjoy New Member

    VERY untrue...SOME guys....okay perhaps not YOU but SOME would be embarassed if their "woman" worked at Arby's so please dont give me that crap about all men dont care cause that is so not true.

    Women that make money dont necessarily NEED a man. They just want love and companionship. Gawd what is wrong with that?
     
  13. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member


    nothing. is wrong. we men have egos though. i know its flawed. its actually very wrong and impractical way to look at it. but it is what it is.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its about how we look too and that's where it becomes more shallow on the woman's end. We both want someone we are attracted to but whether you yourself aren't like this most women are. I never hear men bitch about finding some of equal socio economic standing as much as women if ever at all. Why? Because we don't rely on you and what you have to elevate us but many if not most of you rely on man to do that for you. That mentality right there will always keep you from equals and make you nothing more than cum dumpsters and baby factories to a lot of men.
    A lot it said about equality but few want to practice it.
     
  15. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    A man or woman being financially stable enough able to take care of one's own business is important when looking to date someone IMO. I'm not looking for a boyfriend to pay my bills & I don't want to pay his either. I have no problem helping my man out when he's in a bind (unless it's due to his irresponsibility)...sometimes life throws us a curve, & I believe it's wrong not to help someone I love if I'm able to do so.

    I've never been married, but I view marriage as a partnership where we take care of each other, & contribute what we are both able. Whether it be the financial or other aspects of support within a relationship, I see it as building a life together & whatever happens in that life we're in it together.

    Avia's right; relationships (& life) are about balance.

    When tough situations arise, doing what we can to support one another & a willingness to take up the slack if need be without a second thought should come naturally to us in a truly loving & committed relationship. We should be happy to be there for one another, & it should never be viewed as a burden or a power struggle...one partner is not more important than the other. There are times in a relationship where your partner will need to lean on you for strength & support & vice versa. It's unrealistic to expect things to be easy; good relationships are hard but worthwhile work.


    Well said, Swirl. Lack of balance & selfishness doom the relationship to failure, IMO.

    Good post, TP. I also don't fit the stereotypes. I've never asked a man how much he makes or decided to go out with anyone based on his position, what he drives or owns, or any of that crap. For me it's about the man as a person & the compatibility, chemistry & connection we have.

    Same here, TP. I haven't seen any of Swirl's post that I haven't agreed with.

    Yep, that screwball theory is one big pile of shit.

    It is important that the people in the relationship agree on the what & how, & to do whatever works for them.

    :smt023
     
  16. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    More than you think. I suspect some of it may be where you live (I think you said NYC? Sorta the home of folks looking for status in general), or the women you tend to meet and attract, or maybe it is a generational thing. Women my age fought our asses off to have the opportunity for more equality in the workplace, not by marching in the streets like our mothers, but be being *in* the workplace, often the first woman in a department. We had to prove ourselves every freaking day, and we're not in a hurry to give up what we've accomplished.
     
  17. TreePixie

    TreePixie New Member

    Thanks, Tam, for your kind words on my posts.
     
  18. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Its very rare though lets be honest. Men dont give a fuck about a females' income.
     
  19. z

    z Well-Known Member

    I am the Gold digger so I don't need another. What I need is a frail lil ol lady with a do not resuscitate bracelet on her arm, lots of deniro under her mattress plus a hot grand daughter for me to scoop when she finally croak, lol
     
  20. Iggy

    Iggy Banned

    Men dont give a fuck. If she's hot has a good personality and works at Arbys...its all good. We dont give a fuck about income.
     

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