help..wonderful white women/parents

Don't waste your precious time my friend. She'll never get it and doesn't want to. I feel for her kids because she's going to screw them up royally. Good post btw kid.

 

My comment was not in even in regards to identifying your children as black. My comment was in regards to refusing to accept their children identifying as biracial or others identifying them as biracial. As in getting upset with the mother of their children calling their children biracial, or a stranger referring to them as biracial opposed to black, or the child themselves calling themselves biracial. I see why you took it the way you did but my intent actually had nothing at all to do with example Obama momma identifying her son as black.

 

Psychologist who KNOW what they are doing certainly disagree with you there. I'd rather take their word for it lol.

 

Any problems most minorities have in regards to racial identification has little to nothing to with acknowledgement of one hertitage or lack there of but by the way peope (like you) try to single them out because of it. If we treated everyone the same despite race this shit wouldn't be an issue but unfortunately people like yourself make it an issue. Would it be nice if we could live in a world where being Irish and Jamaican meant you'd be accepted by both ? Yeah but is that likely to happen? Fuck no. White people in general are very quick to remind you that you aren't one of them.

 

Your very problem with this issue is you limit yourself to the issue of white privilege in the US. But I have a question for your what about when the child is the product of two minority groups?
Your failing to see their is a bigger picture. Your first mistake is you refuse to notice in generalized differences between black cultures and white cultures in the US. Sure a mixed black and white kid will never been seen as white by whites although whites do NOT even have the same bond with each other letalone those who are part white in the way that minority groups do to start with. So what it is your expect of whites to do doesn't even exist among them with the exception of certain ethnic groups like Italians. But none the less a child being raised by whites in a white family tends to have a cultural connection even if it's not a said culture. You act as if blacks are fully accepting either. If that was the case then multiracial children wouldn't endure being made fun of for having a white parent, carrying their white parents accent, having traditions or commonalities that are more often associated with whites, dressing in clothing that are more associated with whites, etc. The problem of biracial adults getting in tanning beds to get darker so they are more accepted by blacks wouldn't exist if total acceptance was there.
There is going to be issues from both sides of their racial groups but apart of learning about your multiracial heritage is learning you don't have fit it with either or you can love yourself for the individual that you are and if others can't accept you for being someone they can't place in a singular box then their not worthy of you.

 

dude, that's why I'm done talking to "mikey" err I mean Regina.

But I think its wrong that you mentioned her children. "I feel sorry for her children" we may not agree with her but we have more than enough to do so without mentioning her children or using them to support or refute we think is right.

I hate it when its done to me, when my children are used....and I have to speak out on it when it done to someone else.

 

DAMN THIS STUPID FUCKING REP SYSTEM!!!!!

 

Fair enough you've both made convincing points but I'd like to point Ms Ra Ra Biracial kids didn't say anything to that. Interesting.
#suspect.com

 

why is it stupid ? People get bent all out of shape when they see a mix/biracial child. fine example...tiger woods. blacks in their longing to claim him told him that he is black. he in turned called himself something else. blacks got mad because he didnt refer to himself as black. he stated why should I call myself black when my mother is korean. if I say Im black then that would disown the other side of me. that would disown my mother . that would disown the korean side of me.

he had to deal with that shit because selfish black folks want to say no you are not korean you are black.

there you go right thurre

why somebody have to be crazy because they have a different point of view ( we dont count mikey and tirkah because those mofos are crazy).

 

me wondering is if we say my child is biracial we are we getting mad at each other. the people yall should be getting mad at are the ones who are trying to put the labels on your child without your childs and your approval. as a matter of fact they should have no say so.

what we need to be talking about is how do WE as parents take control fo that shit (self-empowerment) about what our child should be. in a round about way hate it or not...it needs to be discussed so we can arm ourselves (if I have a biracial child) in how we can empower our kids to successfully navigate thru the chit. the kids didnt ask to have multiple races in their blood. with that been said yall better huddle up and help each other and stop being bitches

 

I dont read all her shit but maybe just maybe she is having a tuff as hell time dealing with that shit and maybe in her odd way she was coming here to find out what to do. Im not sure but Im just guessing and like I stated...I dont read all that biracial stuff and probably should but I dont. anyway, she probably came here looking for some advice ...I dont know but it may need to be discussed to some point in an intellectual way.

I would suggest a thread discussing "how to deal with the public trying to make you identify your kids one race versus another and how to help your kids self identify" or some shit like that

 

I have some degree of admiration for Frederick Douglass' scholarship and principles during a time where people of African descent were not allowed to read or write. That, however, is not the question. The question IS, however, the relative motivations for the 'biracial' movement and its gaining momentum.

First, I didn't say that biracial children seek to be "better" than non-mixed children. I DID, however, state that there is a desire to escape the social stigma attached to "blackness". Understandably so, as no child should be made to feel as anything better or less than anyone else. While I feel deeply for the pain some of these children may experience, I don't think they are necessarily looking to express the 'fullness' of their ethnic identity. It's not like these children are looking to learn Gaelic and Yoruba in equal measure and maintain joint membership in the IRA and African People's Revolutionary Party or something and have some asserted desire to fully represent each half of their identity in some sort of overt fashion. And I totally oppose the balkanization of society a la South Africa into distinct racial categories, because, as is evident in the South African apartheid-era example, the overriding intent AND result is to place whiteness in a privileged sphere and defined as normative while all other groups are defined in relationship to their relative "whiteness" and treated as the "other".

I don't care how children identify themselves, as it is the right of everyone to determine their identity (assuming it's not in defiance of objective fact, like calling oneself a goat or something). However, I do believe that within much of this burgeoning 'movement' is a desire on the part of some of the people to identify as anything other than black. I disagree with the black community attempting to lay sole claim to Tiger Woods as if he just got off a boat from Nigeria, but I also disagree with the whole 'Cablinasian' nonsense he attempted to justify as some sort of category. In my mind, he was what he was: a racially diverse African-American with a Thai mother. Period. I don't see why anyone (black or white) finds these such difficult things to digest. The only reason I can see for it is that they must have some sort of difficulty identifying with 'blackness' (whatever the hell that means, but I'll use it as shorthand for the purposes of this discussion).

I appreciate your passion for this topic and the obvious love you have for your children and the difficulties they may face in society. That is a very admirable characteristic and one that I think we can all agree that all parents should share. I do not believe that anyone has a right to make a child feel less than whole and the problem with their identity is society's, not the child's. However, the terms "biracial" and "multiracial" are wholly unspecific and serve to cloud discussion rather than clarify. People should be able to state freely and precisely what they are IF AND ONLY IF they want to. The propagation and fetishization of these categories is not a solution. Completely eradicating racism is.

 

That's an excellent idea, goodlove.

 

Nah I just find it an interesting topic. I done went though all the series of how should I handle it, I tried to read as many articles as I could find on what different biracial people say and about their experience. When I first had biracial kids I wasn't even aware that they were some biracial people that identified solely as black. I'm use to this argument done had it a million times on another site I'm just use to having it with black women lol. They love to tell us shit like how were incapable of raising "black" children.

And I had already commented on what was said, so I don't know what the me not responding is all about.

 

THIS....VERY WELL WRITTEN.......

Again the idea that "multi-racial" or "bi-racial" somehow connects two races is utterly laughable. I did enjoy your comment...

and this really destroys the myth of "paying hommage to both cultures" as I've already stated we study both black history and Japanese history in my home. Something real and tangible for my children to learn and understand the past of both cultures. Calling them "bi-racial" does not do that.

 

I enjoy fucking with you young dude........I'll grow tired of playing with my food soon enough. Relax.

...or not

...I don't care

...do I have a hard on for you? Hmm...well I don't know *Mr. T voice*: You do look mighty cute in them jeans.

 

I did not read the whole thread. How about we just call them children?