Gentlemen...

It's complicated whether we were close or not. But short answer would be yes.

 

Just depends on how an individual was raised. More or less a sign of the times. Id want listen to some older folks who can really shed some light on a subject like this.

I noticed in your story that you didnt mention any good deeds by women so im confused on why this is a gender specific issue? Are there a slew of women standing up for old ladies on a regular basis where youre from?

 

What's all this gentleman stuff. Sounds like basic manners to me. Both men and women are falling off I don't see why dudes get a bum rap. It's a generational thing I suppose. More Internet less human interaction.

 

It always is. Men suck women are perfect. Didn't you get the memo lol

 

That's what I was thinking! We lose a bit of it by limited social interaction and lack of actual people interaction in general. Also, you could add that adults don't really set an example well enough.

 

I'm saying this man or woman, but I try not to let other people's attiudes or how receptive they are to everyday kindness dictate whether I give up my seat, hold a door or say a kind word.

The world is full of assholes and I was raised right. I won't let them take that away from me. And yes, I have no problem holding the door for men too. Goes both ways.

 

nice take

 

Post of the day candidate right here. My post of the day thread btw lol

 

there is alot of these i agree, i work with a few of them, when it comes to wanting a guy from the work place they wonder why they keep their distance from em

 

How about we all agree to be the change we want to see in the world.

 

I made it gender specific, bc in both cases that I was talking about, it was men who were slackin'. Women can be just as pathetic, but that wasn't the case in this situation.

Mr Fanny, you need to stuff it. I am so NOT a man-basher. Women can be assholes too - but in this instance it was slack ass boys not mannin' up.

100% agreed. And yes, I agree it should be basic manners too - for most people it probably is...as I've already mentioned.

:smt023 yes.

awww, MrFantastical - you're such a poet at heart. :smt007

 

That's what I like about you Sup. Slap me twice but you me a big kiss in the end. Definitely my kind of woman lol

 

lol - you know I gotta speak my mind. I'm kinda grouchy today, so my apologies if I've been snippy...I just don't feel that good. but, I still got love for Mr Fantabulous!! :smt060

 

The 20-something year olds were correct. It is called equality. Whoever gets to the bench gets to sit. If the old lady asks and they want to give up the seat, then that is fine but they are perfectly correct. i REM

I remember when I had walked 5 miles and got to a place to sit. Some douchbag said would any man care to give this lady a seat. (Mind you the woman drove to the same location and was late) You better believe that I am not getting up. You don't know what people had to do to get some where. It is heavily unfair to expect someone to give up their seat just because some other person is a different gender.

Your bag incident should have ended up in a "could you please open the door since I have bags in my hand?" I bet he would have opened the door. He has to go through too. You have to communicate and not expect for people to read your mind.

You can't ask for equality and then want to go back to the chivalry. Either get in the kitchen and make the sandwich for the man or tell the man to make his own darn sandwich since women are equals. not both!

I for one enjoy the equality of women because it frees men from having to do things that they would not because we believe women are equals.

Oh and men are full of stories holding doors for women and men. The number one offender of not giving me a thank you is a woman! There is all the chivalry I need.

 

Wow just wow. And right here is what's wrong with society today. Did you eat nails for breakfast?? :smt099

 

I assure you the society of today is better than the one's of the past. You got to be fierce in equality. Otherwise people push on other folks sexism. I have personality dealt with those folks. Usually the older generation:smt012

 

wow, seriously?

i guess you'd be sitting there with the other assholes while the 75yr old lady WITH A WALKER, might i add, stands. i don't give a rat's ass if a young adult/kid (male or female) walks 10miles and a 90yr old woman (or man) gets a limo ride to the front door of the restaurant - the kid should have enough respect to get off his ass and let them sit. it's about respect, not equality. but i guess that's dead along with common sense and common courtesy. smh. :smt012

what she said. ^^

 

If the lady asked me I would have gotten up. I have gotten up numerous times for old ladies without question but I still defend the right of equality.
That does not mean I have to get up. It wouldn't be the first time I got up for an old lady just like opening the door for women.
However, You are not entitled to any thing on gender. This is the unappreciative value of doing a nice thing. :smt009 Are you the type of woman who feels entitled to every man opening the door for you? are you the lady who feels entitled to every man getting up for you?

It is about equality. Make no doubt about it. To make it even worse a simple query would have solved the old ladies problem a simple query may have gotten the door open for you. There is respect in equality. and none in inequality. disrespect and discrimination. but I guess the common courtesy of equality never existed. same old inequality in the us of a.


lastly, you have chosen to change this out of a gender bias and into a non gender bias issue. I am at least glad that something is getting to you on gender equality after making such an terrible thread on gender bias.

 

dude, for real?? did you not read any of the previous comments talking about how the ONLY reason I made reference to gender in these cases was bc it was silly ass boys not manning up? it was silly ass boys NOT being gentlemen - hence the title of the thread. did you want me to make up a story just for the sake of talking or being politically correct? women can be assholes too - trust that. But I sure as hell, am NOT a woman suffering from self-entitlementitis. I already said in an early post that I don't ever EXPECT anyone to hold a door for me, or to give me their seat, etc, but I sure as hell show my gratitude when they take the time to do so...and I definitely have enough respect for other people to get off my rump and let them sit WITHOUT being asked. And you make it sound like I'm pissed bc those dummies didn't get up for me - it had NOTHING to do with me, jackass...I just think it's disrespectful for any young person to sit there when there's someone three times their age that could probably use the seat a little more than them.

Damn, man...not everything is about equality ALL the damn time. :???: