Marriage Equality

This has been floating around the news recently, I was wondering if it was okay with the people on here if they approve of same sex marriage to be implemented in society? I think it should be approved because the type of relationship that L/G/B/T relationships represent are similar and unique like interracial relationships. Both types of relationships had laws in the past forbidding it. Currently I remember hearing that the Marriage Equality bill needed one more vote to pass in the Senate.

 

date who you want
marry who you want
fuck who you want

it has nothing to do with me.

...and there is no comparison between race and sexuality.

 

No, they are not!

 

Ok, how so. I was thinking in the perspective of laws that were written in the past about marriage.

 

The history of same sex marriage and the anti miscegenation laws are not similar at all.

 

Still..........wrong.

But I'm sure some wordsmith pseudo net intellectual will come in and aid you in this stretch.

 

Look I am for all equality. I support gay marriage, gender change whatever. But equating homosexual relationship to BM + WW relationship is ridiculous. When a gay man leaves his house no one knows he is gay unless he is over the top flamer like Rupaul. Me on other hand everyone knows I am a black guy with a WW. The few times ppl got me mixed up was when I had long hair, even then at best they confused me as a dark skin Egyptian, Puertorican, Brazilian, Columbian, Pakistani or some sort of minority with a WW on his arms.

So give me a break, talk about false equivalence.

 

I understand your perspective. Anyways, I just looked on Google, I found an article that states that there is a parallel between gay marriage and interracial marriage. Honestly, I wasn't sure at first but I thought it would be cool to bring up.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-01-25-couples_x.htm

 

You didn't find an "article" you found an "opinion"

 

Yes it should be legal and I agree it's just like Interracial marriage. We should not be allowed to dictate whom another can marry. As long as they are of age, and are human it should be a civil right. Same goes for polygamist.

 

Yep, you're right. My opinion anyway is that love has no boundaries whatsoever. A human can simply be attracted to another human. That is how a liberal society works. A more conservative society would state that you need to be attracted only to the opposite sex of your own skin complexion.

Awesome, glad to hear you understand it this way too!

 

:smt115

 

I agree. I don't know why people want to deny they are similar. Christians denied people of different races to marry b/c according to them it was against their religion (I'm Christan btw) they are still denying homosexuals the right to marry again b/c they feel it's against their religion.

 

Christians believe a lot of things, is this to be the broad similarity we are drawing: that a White Christian society didn't approve of something. :smt102

 

Yes that being the #1 excuse for both makes them very similar. Withholding marriage rights period though cause not all who are with holding are Christan. But the majority is and that is the very problem. I feel a person should live their life as they see fit religious or otherwise but you should not use your religion to tell everyone else how to live. It applies to you and you only if you choose to live by it. You know what I mean.

 

I definitely approve of same-sex marriage. Those who don't support it tend to be completely bigoted and moreso irrational with their claims. As for whether or not they do equate to interracial marriages and miscegenation laws in the effect that they are basically discriminating against those because of who they are and who they fall in love with. Sure, you can't really tell who's gay, but that's where the discrepancy ends. Either way, you're still advocating discriminatory practices.

Furthermore, there have been laws which attacked homosexuality since the early 1900s. You can pretty much name all sorts of legislation from DOMA, DADT, and the struck down Federal Marriage Amendment. In fact, sodomy laws were enacted directly towards gays. Even in Louisiana, the Sodomy Laws didn't get pulled from the books until 2003. Ironically, same-sex marriages are illegal as are civil unions and domestic partnerships for same sex couples.

Compared to the miscegenation laws, there were far more laws keeping gays from coming out because of deep scrutiny.

And here's a funny fact...the first miscegenation laws weren't done by whites. Rather, they were done by Black Republicans who basically wanted to outlaw interracial marriages because of the constant attacks by white men towards black women. That surprised me. But, it was struck down.

 

I agree with your first part. It doesn't matter at all that you can not tell who is gay and who is not. Discrimination is all the same. That would be like telling someone like Walter White who was discriminated against if he let it be known he was black that he was not the same or acted as though his discrimination didn't matter all b/c he had to let it be known. A homosexual should have the right to walk down they street with the man/woman they love, hold hands, kiss, etc and above all else commit themselves by law.

Although I heard something somewhere about what your talking about the first law which was passed in Virgina is said to be b/c of bacons rebellion. Hmm I think what your talking about was something else that happend later and had to do with the children. Er I can't remember but I just read this within the last few weeks.

 

I was listening to the radio one day and this individual was being interviewed about his book talking about the history of interracial marriages. Either it was in Tennessee or Virginia, there were two black Republican representatives that wanted to outlaw interracial marriages mainly to keep white men from raping black women. Sadly, I forgot the author and the book, but it's fairly recent.

 

If the only similarity mikey is trying to draw is that society and certain laws prevented both groups from marrying, that's fine, but the historical context of interracial relationships and homosexual ones are different.

 

I've addressed that gays faced a lot of scrutiny beyond marriage as well and there were laws which basically prohibited them from being who they are practically. That's a lot more psychologically damaging.