THE DILEMMA

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by z, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    is he still married and not on child support?
     
  2. z

    z Well-Known Member

    There was a study that came up a while ago men do have problem as they age with reproduction as well.
    Anyhoo, that is not my concern....it is just that I see parents who are educated and successful and in mid 40's having kids in college and grand kids. I know of a nurse who is in her mid 30's, who has a daughter that graduated HS, married, and now thinking about college.
     
  3. Athena

    Athena New Member

     
  4. suprchic73

    suprchic73 New Member

    I know - I have a some friends who are only a couple of years older than me who have teenagers...it blows my mind. I'm behind!! I actually have a couple of coworkers in their 30s, who's sons just graduated from high school this month. It's crazy.
     
  5. z

    z Well-Known Member

    He is an orthodox jew, last I checked they do well in life (I know I am generalizing and I am sorry). His father is a an ortho guy who is generating serious dough and his mother is an accountant. His family is really involved with their grand kids, when his father came to graduation at that time my Ex was there and his dad told me "why don't you start a family?, what are you waiting for?" I told him I am working, going to school and supporting my EX's niece so it was not a good time.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Was that a yes he is still married or a no?
     
  7. z

    z Well-Known Member

     
  8. z

    z Well-Known Member

    YES and successful career wise, has more kids, involved with his temple, got money in the banks, etc.........
     
  9. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    What I recommend you do is start limiting the people you are dating to women who want a family. Go to those organizations that specifically look to hook people up that want to get married and have children. Keep positive though. Every thing rises and falls on the man in a relationship.
     
  10. z

    z Well-Known Member

    I did not say I came across women who do not want to have kids. What I am saying is I am meeting women that I don't want to have kids with or be srsly involved with in long term and vice versa. So I thought from legal stand point prolly make sense to have kids by that method and date whoever your heart desire, then you're really not tied up financially or anything else to the women that you court.
     
  11. Athena

    Athena New Member

     
  12. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I see. well that is a bit different and much different from your jewish friend. It seems like you simply want a kid. I don't know how sincere you are with this idea because it a very deep and complex thought. You can't send the baby back once you realize how difficult it is going to be. This is something you ponder for years but good luck with whatever the choice is.
     
  13. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    You can not expect to finish a marathon if you don't put in effort into the journey. At the same time, it shouldn't be back breaking work. You should enjoy the process of finding a partner, meeting new and wonderful people in your journey for a life partner. You are so focused on the "end goal," the "big house with a porch, white Pickett fence, 2.5 children and a dog" dream, that your missing out on what/the freedom you'll covet at age 45--when your having a midlife crisis. Plus, I thought you were religious, leave it in gods hands, his plan is divine if you have the patients and wherewithal.

    I think there is some level of attraction there...albeit weird, there nonetheless. If I were a woman, I wouldn't give up my eggs, it's much different than just a squirt of sperm.

    I'm not a female and can answer that. You know there's always a chance.

    I don't think so, we already use DNA/Genetic coding to do a lot of things already, it's only really when it pertains to people when you arms start flailing.

    I'm never going to sy never, but I highly doubt I would be 50+ & alone, which would be the requirement for me to have a test tube baby. No one can ever substitue a true bio mother/father (close, but just not the same).
     
  14. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    In addition, you know....you know that a child should be the product of two active parents (as long as possible/god willing).
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Fresh, I am not so much of a religious person but a spiritual kind of guy and YES Christ is the center of my existence, I even pray for the ppl I help/ do work for with that customer as well as their family. I bother Christ every single day of my journey, TBH I have prayed about this a while ago, but I don't feel I should bother Christ with this anymore, he has done so much for me and I should not be wasting his valuable time with this, he even saved me from major car accident yesterday.

    BTW, I know I am a capitalist and like money but I don't worship it and make the focal point of my life, if that is the case I would have taken a much much paying job that was offered to me in Las Vegas recently. I just want to have my own kids, I don't think it is a crime, I want to throw football with my own kids, I want to play pick up basketball game & dunk on them while I am young.

    Anyhoo, maybe I am getting punished coz I 've asked a good looking polish broad to have an abortion. I did ask her to abort my kid when I was in Chi, I did not force her but discussed with her and we both agreed. But I must say I am the one who initiated that whole discussion with her (you can crucify me if you wish but it was for multitude of reasons....I know, I know, I am not perfect, far from it.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2011
  16. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    What happened to not putting your business out in the street....
     
  17. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I got all hormonal & emotional and got carried away; I might ask to lock this thread. I need to look for some anti-depressant, lol
     
  18. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    C'mon dude :p

    What kind of woman do you want to marry and have a family with?
     
  19. TheHuntress

    TheHuntress Well-Known Member

    Stop thinking you're being punished. You discussed it, and mutually agreed for a reason. If it was meant to happen then, it would've happened.

    I'm frankly more concerned that you admit you've got a shitty attitude and that's why you have trouble dating- what about turning that around? I mean, you seem pretty nice to me, but if that's an issue you're aware of, it is definitely going to turn women off.
     
  20. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    :smt042 He's looking to hire someone for that job.
     

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