How could anyone hate their child just because they're gay? That's so damn sad. I mean of all the people in the world, your parents are the ones that you're suppose to be able to rely on for love and support. That really does make me want to cry.
Love is love and it knows no boundaries. It's just misplaced nowadays with sexual lust and the dopamines in the brain don't register well. The same way how you have a strong attraction towards white women and of the opposite sex in general, the same goes for those attracted to the same-sex. No one chooses who they are at all. I don't see how you're tolerable outside of your own family, but within it, you'll turn it into a contradiction of your own character. I'm certain one of these days, Biblical scholars would turn up hidden documents in which Jesus, himself, was gay and the cause of his crucifixion was due to his jealous lover, Judas. Call me sick, but much of history (minus the obvious fictional areas in this regard) could be proven true. Would you then denounce your Christian Jesus Freak title and turn to another faith because of your "leader's" sexual orientation?
No thanx, no gay kids for me, sorry. I want to see my gene prosper and expand. I had this discussion with my ex and I was oaky with it b4 but revisted the issue in casual convo with few ladies recently, so no thank you.
That's not up to you. Remember what Chris Rock said? "Whoever you hate will wind up in your family." Express that sort of morbid behavior and you just may get that what's coming to you.
The heck, it is up to me, raise 'em right, lol Like Cosby said "I brought you to this world, I can easily take you out", lol. With all jokes aside, it is a very difficult issue. I know prayer works for me so I know where to go when I need help.
Prayers NEVER work. What you do need is build the balls to be the best dad to your child should s/he turns out of be gay. I don't think anyone wants their children to have a difficult life, but I'd expect the parents to show them the way to happiness.
I wish I could give you every rep point on this site. So well said, BBW. :smt038:smt038 DOA - Whether or not someone is gay has nothing to do with how they were raised. But whether or not they have any love for themselves does.
The joke is definitely not in good taste, but it's not about hate IMO. PC or not, I can understand where he's coming from for not wanting his son to be gay...in all honesty, I'm glad my son isn't gay, & I wouldn't want him to be. If he was I wouldn't be happy about it, but I wouldn't love him any less.
I don't want to hijack this thread and have religious debate here. I know where you stand when it comes to Christ and you know where I stand. So we are not going to agree on that topic. Prayers have worked for me a million times, even when faced with death starring me down thru a gun barrel. Psalm 23 never fails me. Prayers have done miracle for me and lots of folks I know. Anyhoo, like I said it is a tough issue. I pray that I won't come to cross it or deal with it. I have heard of few familes who had to deal with this very difficult issue, they have prayed and used counselors and their kid "has turn/change". Like I said I pray that I don't have to deal with it. God knows I have been faced with zillion problems and been bating away, I don't need another. **I just want to make clear where I stand, so there is no confusion. There is no hate here, I am not preaching hate & prejudice. I am oaky with the whole neighborhood being gay, I just don't want mine to be one, if that makes me a bigot, oh well, so be it.
:smt042 Nope, they're just being forced into a lifestyle that's not natural. They'll end up getting a little something on the side, while their wife is at home wondering if she's doing something wrong because her husband just doesn't seem that attracted to her. You can't change a gay man/woman in to a straight man/woman anymore than you can change a straight man/woman into a gay man/woman. Nature is a powerful bitch.
Agree nature is a powerful bitch. This have been debated in many campus including Harvard, how much nature vs nurture are part of the equation. Some say it is 50:50, 80;20, others think mostly enviroment, etc.... I think if I am not mistaken there was a Phd psychologist who treated this case as some disorder and apparently folks have changed. Anyhoo, I think I have said my piece in this topic, enough from me.
I have no doubt that a pychologist could make someone believe just about anything. Still doesn't change who they really are. I feel sad for all the gay children whose parents hate them simply because they don't love who the parents want them to love.
I'm glad to hear that, Sin. I can't exercise bigotry when it comes to who you love. This is something of a great concern when people are willing to speak of the misunderstood. And this, in part, is based on ignorance of a dick-centered nature. Religion aside, what it boils down to is your inner will to not allow society to drive you to the brink of insanity. Those who do are generally those who are weak-willed and can't prepare for the unexpected. I have a younger brother with autism and while it is difficult, I don't want to wish death on him or anyone. The truth is, no one wants to have a difficult life. But we, ourselves, are to blame should that happen. Gay people are fully functional people and have contributed a lot of things throughout history. Whether we're talking Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, the person who created the Star-Spangled Banner, they have done much wonders. If your children winds up gay, then no doubt they would have a dad that would show undying love and care and not allow anyone to drill them to think they are less than human.
Chris Rock had this to say Tracy Morgan does not think before he speaks or acts that is what makes him TRACY MORGAN! He is hilarious! But, like all comedians he is liable to say something that people don't think is funny-especially with his style. Personally, I would love my son regardless but, I would hope my children would be heterosexuals, to be honest. Does that make me a bigot or closed minded? Perhaps it is nothing more than a fundamental hope for my offspring to possess some of my basic qualities and desires.
This shit again! DOA I wish you were on a similar thread a while ago-negroes in here wanted to take an axe to me because like you I didn't express love for the whole dickbreath fur chomper brigade. I swear they hollered and ululated so loudly you'd have thought I kidnapped and Killed Oprah! All cause I asked why are their rights suddenly paramount-sighhhh.
yeah. at the sametime you have to be a little more cognizant of what he is saying and who he is saying it to. he better know that gays are in certain position and that could be his ass. also there are other people who would take their side. lastly its just stupid to say something like that. of course I would want my kid to be hetero but damn dude you better think before you speak he is however getting a lot of support from comics
well from another mother.... i wouldn't care a hoot if any of my children turned out gay. as long as s/he is happy, healthy and loved what does their sexual orientation got to do with anything...??? as a very wise friend of mine said, "saying you have nothing against gays, as long as a child of mine isn't gay is as bad as saying i don't have anything against black people, just as long as a child of mine doesn't end up with one".