White male Black Male Rivalry??

Discussion in 'Dealing with Prejudice' started by Nico, May 29, 2011.

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  1. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    I know probably everybody here has read "Black Like Me", but would just like to state it for the record. It seems a rotten trend that when some (racist) white men get around black men, they will lower themselves to whatever "perceived" level of conversation they think they should have, or have the nerve to abandon all propriety because they THINK a certain way about the black man, and will descend to ask all manner of inappropriate, obscene things because they think they can get away with it. In that society of course (when "Black Like Me" was written), unfortunately the black men didn't necessarily think it was safe to protest, and felt coerced to go along with that line of talk to avoid infuriating the white man, who held power over him in his job, even his life.

    To me, this cuckolding trend is just another version of this vile fascination on the part of white men. But who can blame them in a way, because "their" (sanctified holy virgin-like untouchable wtf-ever) white women have ALWAYS
    been curious, and this was the white man's way of attempting to gain control over a situation he in actuality knew he had NO control over (white women being attracted to black men). He thought knowledge might be power, but what he really got was BM telling him what they thought he wanted to hear (it was of course in their own best interests to protect themselves and their loved ones by staying on the ignorant invasive white man's "good side" while giving him entertaining "information").

    It's happening to this day. I think cuckolding is a VERY dangerous practice and insulting to all involved.
     
  2. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    668 posts and this is the first I agree with.
     
  3. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Excellent.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Suspect
     
  5. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    LOL Yup. I'd say probably very few people here have read it. I know I haven't.
     
  6. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    What the French, Toast? What are you trying to say now.
     
  7. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Why not? It's an enlightening, classic book. Very dated to the times in many ways but it reveals so much truth. You are really missing out.

    I had been traumatized by racism (as much as a white person CAN be), and started educating myself. *shrug*
     
  8. Sin Mari

    Sin Mari New Member

    Firstly, because I'd never heard of it until now. Secondly, because I don't think I'd want to. I don't read as much now as I use to, and when I do...I want some entertaining fantasy.
     
  9. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Well it's entertaining all right... And it's a fantasy of a white man turning into a black man to see how it REALLY is. He even had some shoe-shiners to tell him to shave his hands, because black men supposedly don't have hairy hands.

    He had people calling in hate threats and vandalizing his property/ threatening himself and his family because of his research. I think it changed a lot of things in American society (his book), and I applaud his courage to personally take on the study and write about it.

    Talk about putting yourself in another man's shoes.
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The assumption that if one is black they probably read it and since the women on here are into bm they've had to have read it too. Blind generalization. Again suspect.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yeah like a skinny person wearing a fat suit right?
     
  12. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Have you read the book? If not, don't be a dumbass and assume trifling things like this.

    Not all white people are ignorant or incapable of empathy.
     
  13. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Suspect to WHAT???? I would (possibly incorrectly) assume that any white female who takes her relationship with a black man seriously would want to educate herself on that which has come before.

    I will not assume I am in the minority. I am sure many white women on this forum have read books relating to race that I have not, and I look forward to hearing their suggestions, particularly if it has helped them to understand the race issue a little better.

    Suspect to WHAT??? Again I say it. You have yet to say what you suspect me of...

    Man up.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I think most of the women here concentrate on the man more so than his race and don't feel the need to bone up on black history to understand him more just like the men don't feel the need to bone up on woman's sufferage to understand the women more. Good try though. Suspect.
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Real talk kid
     
  16. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    Everything is part of what has come before, whether you want to admit it or not. I don't think I should be "suspect" for (I guess) WRONGLY assuming that people would want to educate themselves on what causes so much turmoil in our world (racism). I know it has helped me a great deal.

    I still plan on reading W.E.B. DuBois' "The Souls of Black Folk", although that was written during the Harlem Renaissance. It was a pivotal time in our nation's history, which is why they even attach the word "Renaissance" to it. Many of the great people that came out of that time were sons and daughters of former slaves, and don't you think that had an impact on what they wrote (or produced, such as music, art, philosophy)...

    I have learned in the every day when not to push, what not to ask, how to "be", when before I was floundering around in cultural confusion (being the daughter of a Canadian mother and a father from Louisiana). It gave me a bit of direction and a lot of peace and understanding.
     
  17. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    I would hope that any man of mine would be well-rounded enough and well-read enough to have at least dipped into a bit of feminist literature, if only to educate himself on history and MAYBE understand a bit of what is going on today. It is ALL connected - there is no way you can divorce yourself from history. It's not possible.
     
  18. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member


    Absolutely it counts, Incorporatedboy, although I would suggest a read of some of Naomi Wolf's books, in particular (off the top of my head). She is a modern feminist (and very beautiful, I might add - I saw her at a lecture at my college back in the day). Good on you for broadening your horizons.
     
  19. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    I think yes.
    I've also noticed that my SO seems not worried about WM, but if another BM looks at me too long or a certain way, he seems to get a bit on edge. Even though he doesn't have any reason to ever worry about any other man whatsoever. But I wonder if he's the only one or not. Do BM feel less threatened by WM when it comes to their woman. Kind of like the opposite.
     
  20. saintaugusta

    saintaugusta New Member

    If a man doesn't care if another man looks at you, he's probably just not that into you. To quote a tired quote.

    Hardly doubt that's the case with you Brittany - I think black men hold more sway regardless - it's just inevitable. Any man HOPES that other men will find his woman attractive, but he also hopes that she'll like him better than the rest. If he knows she's in love with him, he might relax. I still think it's better to keep them a bit on edge (having been the "in love" girl before - you have no room in which to work)...

    In future I plan on acting like I don't care awfully much. Have put it into practice recently and it seems to be paying off (in "practice" results). The real kicker is when you ARE ga-ga for a guy and have to try to hide your feelings.
     
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