College Conspiracy

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by 4north1side2, May 16, 2011.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Speak for yourself my portfolio is sound and once I finish school again you can call me the 100k kid ya dig
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You leaning more towards finance or some other private sector job?
     
  3. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    lol

    what are your thoughts on MBA programs

    i know they offer some part time in the Killadelph, but do you think their cost is justified?
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Unless you go to UPenn or Stern or a school of that ilk its definitely not worth the money well unless you're already working in a management position and your job wants to pay for you then cool but they usually cost around a 50 to a 100k and very time consuming. Thats why I chose the masters in accounting route opposed to an MBA. 1 year at Uconn for 16k and that was it.
    I thought you wanted to do nursing?
     
  5. TheHuntress

    TheHuntress Well-Known Member

    MBAs are throwaway degrees. In theory, they're awesome, but that's just because thats all they are.....theory. I know so many MBA people who are a waste of space. It baffles me.

    BTW, when I'm done with everything, I will be the one telling all of your bosses what to do. ;)
     
  6. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    so much to choose from, son

    i just know that drexel and others offer part time MBAs, and Rutgers has the part time law. I guess if I was a true scholar, i'd pick one regardless of financial projections, to educate myself you know. But that ain't me, and I want to move up in the world :smt007
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    My suggestion to you is if you're math minded I would do something in the financial world but something geared towards finance or accounting, science minded then something like nursing or even a physicians assistant but whatever you do make sure you look for some type of direct contact job, something that can't be easily outsourced or something that can be outsourced but people wouldn't go for it like bringing doctors and nurses from other countries. Sometimes xenophobia works to our advantage.
     
  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    lol smart man

    working jobs that were outsourced is part of our unemployment problem
     
  9. z

    z Well-Known Member

    The only way I would go back to college is if Harvard or UPenn gives me a joint JD/MBA program with full ride.... other than that all other schools can shove their degree where the sun doesn't shine.
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Whats going to probably happen is a lot of merging between colleges like corporations since whats they are essentially because now that people are hip to the fact that going to nowhere U for 30k a year is totally bs they won't do it anymore. Once more reputable schools start oferring actual online degrees not just classes its over for shit places like U Phoenix and all those other for profit onlines schools. There are so many ways to avoid costs though. Like CLEP exams. You can eliminate up to 1 year of school by taking them. I have my little cousin studing for that shit harder than the SATs right now because our family can't afford her dream school (NYU) so her best bet is take full advantage of Connecticuts states school. Uconn is a top tier school ranked in the top 60 and we are planning to get her first two years knocked out in only one. Maybe three in one and a half and the last 30 credits can be done at Uconn before she applies to medical school. If you're going to be in debt make it as little as possible and research research research. Don't be lazy.
     
  11. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Really...? Shouldn't you have a good grasp of theory if you want to be an engineer or an entrepreneur? If you understand theory then you don't end up re-inventing the wheel. It goes back to the saying, "You don't know what you don't know." Even those who start businesses often fail when businesses outgrow their ability to manage the business. Those that do succeed usually do so because the owner or the investors in the business understand that a "professional" manager is required, typically someone with an MBA, think Facebook and most other investor funded companies. The owner may continue on as a Chairman to provide vision but the day to day business activities are done by professional managers, MBA's . MBA schools offer more than theory through programs that combine practicums in the classroom with internships. Graduates of quality schools command the highest salaries of all graduate programs. You would also be hard-pressed to find someone with the other management ranks of fortune 500 corporations, V.P,'s, President's and C.O.O's and C.E.O.'s.

    Notwithstanding the value of an MBA, not everyone is prepared or willing to pursue this path, or even four year college programs. There are still other shorter term options, again as mentioned by other posters, including specialty trade schools, nursing programs and hospital or IT related specialist and technology programs. In some European countries make use of apprenticeship and technology programs that begin in high school, and require little or no additional work after high school. Jobs like dispensing drugs, giving injections or drawing blood in hospitals are often based on such programs.

    It really depends on the aspirations and aptitudes of the person. The point is that even in this economy people can choose educational programs that will allow them to live comfortably.
     
  12. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    only 'reputable' school that offers completely online, 4-year degrees is Drexel. Hell, they even say they're reputable in their commercials.:)

    seriously tho, colleges are starting to recognize the untapped earning potential out there. Not everyone has the time or logistics to sit in a class room 3-4 times a week. So, buy investing in online programs, they're opening up another avenue of income. I would rather go there than U Phoenix :p

    the flipside is that schools like UPenn, do NOT accept online classroom credit. They want in-class credits for transfer, to make sure you didn't have someone else take the classes for you lol.

    PSU offers online degrees also. Only downside to that is that some tests have to be taken with a proctor. So, you have to arrange test dates with faculty at a campus, or some other bullshit.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I'd rather take a few tests than actually dedicate four hours a day three or days a week to a classroom. Its far more efficient. If they're worried about people taking classes for you make sure all midterms and finals are at the school or a satellite test site. Simple. Its all so doable but people have to be willing to do it. We waste so many great resources here. Like Itunes U or their podcasts have ton of free classes. Tons of classes on language physics business math and its all free but people rarely take advantage. Everyone wants to be a reality star or a rapper. Real talk
     
  14. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    lol

    I do prefer online classes myself, especially since I work for a living. They definitely allow you to pack on the classes and read/study/do whenever you have time. When you graduate from drexel, your degree will be the same as anyone elses there, and you know that it's a good school. U of Phoenix on the other hand..while convenient...is real suspect at the moment.:p
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    All those online schools are. It proves how dumb most of the people who go there are. How can you expect to compete against all the other people in your field looking for a job when you Colorado College on your resume? Unless you're in a field in absolute desperate need then it doesn't matter like actuary science. I get why people do it, you can't beat the convience. It gives working people a chance to better than themselves without taking night classes which most professional degree didn't offer till very recently. You talk about nursing so much I suggest you try that. My cousin is a nurse practioner and started around 80k and old worked 3 days a week 12hr shifts
     
  16. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Yep, a lot of the for profit schools like U of Phoenix are getting scrutiny as degree mills. I heard something about the federal government investing them?
     
  17. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    i dunno

    id stick with Drexel myself, since it's near my work. I can go to campus or do stuff online.

    ive seen some reviews from U of P and I felt sorry for people that spent all that money. Its NOT a cheap school.

    As for CRNP...they do get money..and they get to write scripts and do other stuff normally reserved for doctors.
     
  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Go for it. Shit my cousin got her Phd from Columbia and it was paid by the hospital. She gets to pretty everything a doctor does and they have to call her doctor and she pays almost no malpractice insurance.
     
  19. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    $$$$$$$

    sad college has been reduced to CREAM schemes
     
  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Be made get paid get laid or just fade ya dig- My pops(paraphrased of course lol)
     

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