Powerlifters

Any powerlifters on the board ? I'm interested in sharing nutrition info, training tips and secrets if anyone is feeling generous !

 

i do some power lifts, but im not a diehard power lifter.

only training tip i can think of is using the alternate hand grip when doing heavier loads (like deadlift), instead of using the wrist straps.

 

I've been a power lifter and competed in many contests.

 

i actually love powerlifting for sports. Working those deadlifts give you an insanely strong posture/base against an opponent trying to get a good position on you. You may not get a 'beach body' by nailing power lifts, but it'll come in handy against other people. I also like the push-press for helping me explode off the ground after backward rolling.

 

I believe that there's definitely a place for power lifts in developing power for a variety of sports. Those basic lifts will increase your core strength as well. I like to combine the lifts with body building and other athletic activities as well, like martial arts.

 

i dont have a lot of technique in bjj yet, so knowing that I have the advantage in those other areas gives me a buzz. nothing like using brute force, lol. Only problem is one of the guys i get matched up with based on size and rank, is hitting the kettlebell class throughout the week. Not going to be as easy to toss him around anymore.

 

Good luck. When I competed as a power lifter I wanted to be as strong as possible while being as light as possible, and I usually was. That's when you can utilize the strength advantage to its fullest. Now, I'm 50 lbs heavier, a lot more muscular and I have to work harder at staying flexible. Funny, how consuming 5000 calories a day tends to make you gain weight.

 

lol

there's ur first tip...Consume 5000 calories

but yeah..staying in a certain weight class while packing on the strength and power is probably something many athletes love.

 

ALT grip definitely helps for the heavier weights ! thats cool that you guys are using powerlifting for a variety of applications besides powerlifting.

I'd love to compete swirlman, but I never feel like I'm strong enough. I'm going to enter into a tournament for the experience though.

As for tips..I find lying curls to be a good knee stabilizer after squatting.

 

Alternating grips don't just help, it's a necessity for heavier dead lifting.

I think that it's best to just jump in the pool and see what happens. Just be sure to develop all your lifts and do assistance exercises beyond the 3 competitive lifts, squat, bench and dead lift.

I don't agree that lying curls are a knee stabilizer. Lying curls primarily are a ham string exercise. I believe that lunges and split squats are direct knee stabilizing exercises. I try to do one of the other twice a week, along with squats and other leg exercises.

 

i like the split squats/lunges also, as it mimics getting low and penetrating for take downs. Every time I do them, I visualize going in for someone's leg. I generally shy away from seated exercises.

 

You do realize the hamstring muscles directly effect knee mobility / stability.

http://www.oandp.org/jpo/library/2001_04_090.asp

With years of training experience, trained / learned from world class powerlifters, attended fitness (strength oriented) seminars and training my clients (who range from athletes, elderly and special populations.) I am 110% sure direct concentric hamstring work IS a knee stabilizing protocol.

It's one thing to BELIEVE and it's another thing to actually KNOW. Unilateral closed hip exercises like the ones you described are good for stretching the hamstrings and helps to correct posture and hip alignment more than anything.

In some cases lunges/split squats will also help alleviate knee tension if an individual has EXCESSIVE / SEVERE shortening of the hamstrings. If that were the case, poor posture, chronic foot and hip pain would be the first signs of a flexibility issue NOT a knee stability issue.

 

I was a world class power lifter, ranked in the top ten in the world.

 

I was being gracious by using the term "believe" as I didn't want to discredit your misinformation once again. But, obviously that attempt was in vain. So...

Do realize that knee stability is controlled by the quadriceps and hamstring muscles? Therefore, to suggest an exercise that works ONLY the quadriceps only increases the chances of an imbalance and less stability in the knee. The use of increased hamstring exercises might be necessary IF the athlete has an imbalance between the hamstrings and quadriceps at the outset.

The split squat affects the quadriceps, hamstrings and glut muscles. It's a far better direct exercise as I suggested for the athlete who's interested in increasing muscle strength and stability. Lunges benefit those muscle groups also, as well as the abductor and adductor muscles. I would advise an athlete to use those assistance exercises along with other hamstrings exercises, but NEVER to employ hamstring exercises only.

The link that you "conveniently" provided is not dispositive because it addressed injured athletes, not healthy athletes, and the study was based on comparing whether a leg brace RATHER than quadriceps exercises are better at increasing knee stability. For this study to mean anything in the context of this discussion, it would have to be on that studies the relationship between quadriceps and hamstrings in controlling knee stability.

That's an entirely different matter than whether quadriceps exercises ALONE are best at strengthening or stabilizing the knee.


So, unfortunately in this matter you are 110% wrong.

 

Yes this is correct

I think you meant to say HAMSTRINGS but I understand what your trying to say.

Stability when it comes to balancing out strength but never in all my years of coaching and rehab have I ever seen someone with WEAK quads and STRONG hamstrings. There probably are some people in this position but they are most likely an extreme minority.

who said anything about ONLY doing HAMSTRING exercises WTF !!...RE-read what I typed.

Do us both a favor and DON'T reply to my threads anymore pls.

 

This is what you said, "As for tips..I find lying curls to be a good knee stabilizer after squatting."

If you didn't mean this statement to suggest that you meant ONLY hamstring exercises, then it seems you would have mentioned a quadriceps exercise as well.

My point regarding imbalances between the quadriceps and hamstrings was based on my understanding of your suggesting hamstring exercises only as this would create an imbalance. It's true that hamstrings are typically the leg muscle group that lags, but if someone focuses exercise on the hamstring to the exclusion of quadriceps, then an imbalance might occur.

When I "politely" disagreed with you on this thread you could have chosen to be a gentleman as well and we could have discussed our different perspectives. However, you chose to make it something more my friend.

Various members often have disagreements about some topics but move forward and don't hold hard feelings, I certainly don't. However, I don't feel compelled to ignore any post and not comment, especially if I feel that the information is inaccurate or unsupported, or a perspective is out of touch.

As a member of a public forum you should understand this and be prepared to accept the consequences of posting on such a forum.

 

this thread went from positive, buddy-building, to all out warfare in a matter of hours

black people aint no joke around here

:smt095

 

Hey, I tried, thought it was a good topic, and a chance to knock off the drama of his other thread. It seems that if you disagree then he doesn't take it well...

 

that's bs then

we're supposed to be here for the input of others

 

Agreed.