mexico with their racist ways again ?

I know English probably isn't your first language, but I don't understand this sentence.

Again, how did I completely 'lose' my argument??

You said Black people have made no practical contributions to society in the areas of scientific discovery.

I disproved this, then you argued but how many have won a Nobel Prize??

You're the only person in the free world who equates Nobel Prize as the primary measure of 'significant contribution to society'.


If you still believe Blacks haven't laid bricks in the foundation of modern Western Civilization, maybe that's the bullshit they teach in Brasil, but we KNOW BETTER over here in the States.

They got you Negroes on mental lockdown, empyrium.

Honestly, I feel sorry for you.:smt087

 

It's not but since you can't understand either Portuguese or German we have to try in English. In case you didn't know pages that don't meet some relevant criteria get removed, so if something is not on wikipedia chances are it's not relevant enough, anyone with half a brain knows that.

No, you didn't disprove anything, you named a few obscure scientists from some opscure site about black inventors and tried your best to overstate the importance of their contributions.

Well, maybe not the primary measure, but naming a few obscure inventors is not gonna help your cause either.

Name a SINGLE THING I'm using right now that was invented by us, computers?, cars?, guess no, you're the only one refusing the acknowledge this fact, you definitelyt need a reality check, you know damn well the world would be the way it is today with or without us, if you wanna fool yourself and pretend we contributed to modern society, that's fine, I'm not that stupid though, I accept the truth.

 

The nature of the real world is shaped like a sphere and the education that drives that world has a similar shape. Therefore a spiritual leader, an engineer, or say, a scientist, is not worth a damn if he or she lacks knowledge of the spherical math and science behind his own specialty. What im saying is this: the engineers and scientists in Africa, tend to learn their crafts(education) over seas and it usually ends there. This is the main reason Africa, and other black states have fallen so far behind other races- our inability to learn a specific craft as a way of employing and up lifting our own people (financially and educationally)- thus allowing the spherical wheel to keep spinning.

I would never say that blacks haven't contributed anything scientifically, in fact, i dont think the average white has done much the same. You have to understand how scientific innovations (Nobel prize laureates) occur; its not the average peasants that does it but rather, those within the top 95 percentile of IQ distribution(think IQ 140+). There are many blacks within that class, my cousin for example is taking an mechanical engineering course in the states, and has won top prizes for his researches and the like, recently got a job making six figures.........I don't see him returning to Africa ....do you?, And should he invent anything groundbreaking, im almost certain some jew or white will attempt to pass the idea as his own. Im not saying he's spectacular(although he is), however, to me, hes just my cousin and it enlightens me on what black men can achieve when truly using our resources.

Basically, dont hate yourself and your ability, kid. It is as if you've been so fervently devoted to a particular assumption about yourself and your people that you are completely incapable of accepting any opinion fundamentally conflicting with your impassioned belief. There is no reason to cling on such self destructing and clear falsehoods because you do not want to live in a lie that can affect you psychologically. In fact I believe, in many sectors of the world, an identical phenomenon is occurring in a collective, alarming and major fashion, relative to afro brothers/sisters view on their own people..Despite being guided towards the light- and enlightened on the profound injustice, prejudice resulting in catastrophic states for blacks as a whole, such people, collectively harbor self destructive philosophies, which inevitably, causes the worsening of self consciousness, higher unemployment, lack of education, hunger, homelessness, medical and health neglect, incompetent scholastic performance, neighborhood infrastructure decay and degradation, etc within black neighborhoods., some of these self hating blacks can't bring themselves to acknowledge that our capitalist way of life and culture-globally, was made immensely predatory by un-reputable greed, and thus, has unforgivably failed our people..

 

LoL

Excellent point BMJ.

 

I don't hate myself, much to the contrary, I love myself for what I am and love my father for what he was. Also, if you're all proud to be black, good for you, nothing wrong with that, I respect your pride, but seriously, we can't really make the point that we contributed to modern society if nothing we are using now was invented by us, naming a few black inventors is not going to change anything either, we all know the world without us would be pretty much the way it is now, I don't see how acknowledging this fact is self-hate.

 

Well, that's what I tell white racists when they brag about their race and their accomplishments, you're right when you say the average white person hasn't contributed or invented anything either, but I don't deny the accomplishments of the white race, that would be pointless...

 

I still question if you REALLY are Black, empyrium, because the level of contempt you have people of African descent is off the charts.

Nigeria BTW is an economically successful African country, as ranked by the World Bank.

Your simplistic analysis about the lack of contributions made by Blacks is beyond cynical IMO.

The book I recommended for you to read, Guns, Germs and Steel, won the Pulitzer Award in 1998 and goes in great depth about the variance in development among cultures, the premise of which is geography and proximity to other cultures, is a greater factor in explaining differences between races/societies than a simple ethnic/racial distinction.

You remind of those people who say that women are inherently inferior because they have contributed so little to society in the core sciences.


In the 19th and early 20th century, what woman, or non-white man for that matter, would have had the opportunity to make such a contribution??

Whatever. I don't care anymore what you think.

You are already a defeated man, empyrium. The negative assumptions you have about Blacks appears to have been hardwired in you from a very early age.

One less sucka I have to beat down on my way to the goalline!!lol:smt071

 

That's your opinion.

No, it's not, although Nigerians tend to be successful when they leave their country, Nigeria itself is extremely poor.

Cynical, if you can't name a single important thing invented by us, do you really believe you have a point when you say we contributed to modern society?, stop living in your fantasy world, things would be much better if you just accepted the truth and realized you don't need this to feel good about yourself.

I never once tried to explain the differences between races or anything like that, I'm gonna read the book, but I'm not, in any way, trying to disprove anything that might be in that book.

Inferior?, I didn't use that word.

I'm with you on that, although Asians are extremely successful today, they haven't contributed much in terms of inventions and discoveries either, in fact whites have been dominating the world for so long now, all three major sciences, Physics, Chemistry and Biology were almost entirely developed by whites, so you might have a point there. However, one might question why non-whites weren't able to develop science and invent things on their own without the help of whites, some countries did just that, but most of the stuff they invented were very primitive and could never hold a candle to the impressive set of discoveries claimed by whites. That's a much more complicated issue though.

Ditto.

I respect your opinion, but I gotta say I wholeheartedly disagree.

 

How is Wiki not credible?

 

I did list inventions by Black people, and YOU said, 'but did they win a Nobel Prize'??

Why do you keep going back and forth???

Is it any worthwhile invention, such as Garrett Morgan's invention of the traffic light??

Or is the criteria a previous winner of the Nobel Prize???

Read the book, dude, which I've noticed you don't even mention as potentially broadening your worldview on the hierarchy of the races.

You don't have to say the word 'inferior' to strongly imply it. smh.

 

Because no byline is required and the sources of information aren't checked or cross-referenced for accuracy.

Yes, people have and still do MAKE UP STUFF on wikipedia entries.

I thought everyone knew this??

 

I'm with you on that, although Asians are extremely successful today, they haven't contributed much in terms of inventions and discoveries either, in fact whites have been dominating the world for so long now, all three major sciences, Physics, Chemistry and Biology were almost entirely developed by whites, so you might have a point there. However, one might question why non-whites weren't able to develop science and invent things on their own without the help of whites, some countries did just that, but most of the stuff they invented were very primitive and could never hold a candle to the impressive set of discoveries claimed by whites. That's a much more complicated issue though.



Statements like these make me wonder what's really up with you??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science

But then you go on to proclaim you've earned an undegrad degree in physics.:smt119


Where in Brasil are you from exactly, empyrium?? Did you go to a public HS or private??

Name of the school??

Can I see your longform birth certificate>??

 

Yes, you listed inventions by black people, but when I asked you to name a single invention I'm using right now you couldn't come up with anything, forget Nobel Prize, that should tell you how important those inventions were.

 

Oh, are you showing me the history of science?, dude, don't even waste your time, all you have to do is open a physics, chemistry or biology book and see how many non-whites are mentioned there, it's indisputable that modern science was pretty much developed by whites.

 

Do you drive??
Red light. Green light.

 

Now, about my having a degree in physics, of course I'm not giving out any personal information, but if there is anyone here who studied engineering or mathematics they could easily verify my claim, now is there anyone?.

 

It's not a black invention either, it was invented by Lester Wire.

 

Enough of this noise

http://www.tnj.com/black-history-makers/major-inventions-african-americans

 

for a black guy who is getting a physics degree he is very dumb in knowing the contributions of blacks in technology.

maybe he is just a guy who just hate blacks

 

Modern science is a cumulative process. Modern science didn't develop in a vacuum nor did it magically appear out of nothing.


You make these wild statements which are easily refuted, then you try to justify your sweeping generalizations with a revised, more specific point.

Yes, the Enlightenment occurred in Europe, no one's arguing this. But there is no Biology/Chemistry/Physics without the 'language' of science; MATHEMATICS.

How many different cultures made inroads in the field of mathematics???

There's a zealousness you go about claiming the 'inherent' dominance of Whites over the course of human societal evolution that I wonder what's really up that's all.


Your basic argument is that Whites are superior over ALL GROUPS, and we should all just learn to accept it and live happier lives.

Who makes these types of statements, except a bigot??
Even when a Black person says they are proud to be so, you question 'why'??

You're shady, dude. That's all.

You post like a mole who's not really all that pro WW/BM relationships.:smt045