One thing that really pissed me off today, and it may have been discussed here but I'm not reading through 11 pages of whatever the fuck y'alls was talking about to see if it was or not, is that the international community seemed to favor this as another opportunity for anti-American bullshit. Yes, I'll agree, the 1 or 2% of Americans dancing in the streets may have been uncalled for.... but until we judge you by your village idiots, try not to judge us by ours. As for that collective sigh of relief and accomplishment that you may have heard from us this morning. Well, consider bandaging your bleeding heart for just a few minutes to recall the nearly three thousand American families ripped apart the day of the September 11th terrorist attacks. The images of people jumping from buildings because that death is better than burning to death. The firefighters and officers who gave their lives to try to rescue the victims of the terrorist attack lead by this man. Maybe.... just maybe.... for a few brief moments, the friends, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters of our hundreds of thousands of servicemen in the middle-east foolishly thought this just *might* be the first step in our loved ones coming home. Give us a day or two to celebrate our small victory, we'll return to normal soon enough. We're not just 'celebrating' the death of some guy. For 10 years, the pursuit of the man behind the group who orchestrated one of the worlds most heinous acts of terrorism has affected the root of our families. It's peculiar that Americans have been labeled as 'warmongers' by people who've not stepped so much as a big toe on American soil, while genocidal dictators and their regimes receive sympathy. al-Qaedas been busy y'all
Let's not forget the other attacks against Americans by Al-Qaeda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing And here's a handy little page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks
Wait..you think Obama is one of the stupidest, most incompetent people on the planet? He's probably one of the most intelligent presidents we've had in the past 70 years...and I am no Super Obama support, but I do know bullshit when I see it.
And that is the other part of the hypocricy....we do indeed judge them by the few we see on TV...as we are judged by the few they see on TV.
"Bin Laden was holed up in a two-story house 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy". And no one in the Pakistani army thought "Gee, I wonder who lives there with the fighters holding RPGs on the roof?" LoL. Bin Laden hanging out in Pakistan and protected. Sounds like Osama was awfully comfy in the heart of Pakistan. So why do we send billions of U.S. aid to Pakistan? The Pakistanis are the most unreliable of all associates, second to the Somalis. Trusting these two are like sleeping with a hungry Hyena, you'da wake up in the morning with one or two limbs missing.
celebrate?? so you celebrate dead hu, there's nothing to celebrate "fight death with death" and you will make a better place sounds so good
To the Navy Seal who pulled the trigger and sent this terrorist to hell, Thank You from America ! ! ! The Navy Seals for Time Magazine Men of the Year!
"Revenge Has No Place in the Justice System" Supporters of capital punishment sometimes claim that death-penalty opponents would change their tune if a family member became a murder victim. They say the opponents would want to take revenge by having the murderer executed. Their argument is refuted by the example of Coretta Scott King, widow of Martin Luther King Jr., and many other relatives of murder victims. Mrs. King opposes the death penalty because it contributes to a cycle of violence. Her husband, a champion of nonviolence, frequently denounced this cycle. He taught that responding to problems with violence and hatred increases evil in the world. As he said: "The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. . . . In fact, violence merely increases hate. . . . Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars." Under his reasoning, the death penalty is not a solution to anything. Instead, it is a violent and hateful act that makes the world worse. He also pointed to history's lesson that vengeance can decimate nations and individuals. Revenge often produces a chain of destructive acts, with each side taking turns avenging an injury and calling the result justice. The outcome is an unending, internecine cycle of violence. For this reason, revenge and hatred should be considered base emotions ranking on about the same level as greed and envy. And for the good of individuals and society, such emotions need to be kept under the control of rational thought processes. Most people wouldn't want parents or schoolteachers encouraging children to be vindictive and hateful. It makes no more sense for the government to possess and encourage those attitudes. But that's exactly what government does by using revenge in the justice system. Its example teaches the public that malice, retaliation, and violence are appropriate means of handling problems. As a result, people are likely to apply the lesson in their daily lives. Moreover, the victims of revenge and their supporters often develop bitterness and a desire to strike back. Many of them may destructively vent those feelings in society. In the case of prisoners, this often occurs after they are released, particularly if they were abused or unnecessarily humiliated in prison. Because vengeance causes such problems, it's not surprising that no reputable study has ever shown that capital punishment deters murder. In fact, states using the death penalty have higher murder rates than those that don't. Of course, society needs to protect itself from criminals. This is done by improving law-enforcement methods, correcting social conditions that contribute to crime, incarcerating those who are a danger to society, rehabilitating criminals who aren't incorrigible, and deterring people from becoming lawbreakers. But when government goes beyond the steps necessary to protect society, and sinks to the level of using vengeance and hatred, the wrong message is sent. And the results are destructive. Mrs. King has also criticized capital punishment as being racist in its application, as making irrevocable any miscarriages of justice, and as setting a dehumanizing example of brutality unworthy of a civilized society. Additionally, she says the death penalty actually harms families of murder victims. "The death penalty adds to the suffering of the surviving family members and loved ones of victims," she explains. "For them, revenge and retribution can never produce genuine healing. It can only deprive them of the opportunity for forgiveness and reconciliation that is needed for the healing process." This means prosecutors often unwittingly cause additional pain to families of murder victims. They tell them that their anger and sorrow will be allayed when the state imposes capital punishment on the murderer. The families are thereby set up for years of frustration and pain as appeals drag on. Each court proceeding can reopen their emotional scars. All the while, they hold the unwarranted belief that the death penalty somehow possesses curative powers. If the execution is eventually carried out, many of those families find it to be a severe disappointment, particularly in terms of improving their emotional state. Some come to see that its main effect was not to heal them, but to inflict similar pain on innocent relatives of the executed prisoner. Thus, contrary to what some prosecutors and politicians say, executions are not "healing." When the death penalty is recognized as having no real therapeutic qualities, relatives of murder victims can find that true healing is not produced by hatred and revenge. Healing is more likely to be found through positive acts. These can include seeking to understand the causes of violence, working to help correct the social conditions that contribute to crime, and comforting the victims of crime and their families. Mrs. King's views on capital punishment are shared by persons who have suffered similar losses and are members of the national group Murder Victims Families for Reconciliation (www.mvfr.org). This group opposes the death penalty in all cases. Its members are convinced that, as Martin Luther King Jr. also said, "The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind." martin would be sad to see all this people celebrating death and it's a shame
Btw big Fuck you to the dirty slimy politician who recmd to use "Geronimo” as the code name for the mission or for Osama bin Laden. One man’s terrorist is another man’s warrior. Using one of the most revered figures name to a possible major terrorist and murderer of thousands of innocent Americans is a complete disrespect. Bin Laden aint no Geronimo, so fuck you.
The International community don't have to bother with the anti-American rhetoric. We have plenty of Americans doing the job for them.
Pics of the aftermath at the compund.... PLEASE NOTE: there are gruesome photos of several dead men in this released by Reuters. Only click if you can handle that. IMO, if there is any indication of Osama's photos resembling any of these of other bodies, I think America can handle it. http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
Where are the fucken pictures? Where are the photos? Supposedly Osama has massacred thousands of innocent Americans and has tactifully avoided capture for almost two decades. Let me see what Bin Laded did to us, 1. He has cost us close to six trillion dollars in last 15 yrs 2. Thousand of American service men and women are dead, paralyzed, and dismembered. 3. Has succeeeded in ruining our economy 4. Made us China's bitch 5. Has helped for oil price to sky rocket. 6. Has helped for our civil liberty almost to be taken away 7. Has caused some Americans to live in fear overseas 8. Caused significant havoc for Aviation industry and travelers And he does all these shits and the govt can't even release a simple photo of proof that the guy is dead, and we're suppose to take their word at face value. All I can say is Obama has not learned anything from the birther movement. The more he refuses to release the pics, the more conspiracy theory is going to grow. Has Obama argued a simple case in a court room in front of a judge & convinced a jury b4? smdh.
If you really don't believe Bin Laden was being given safe harbor by the Pakistanis and that an elite Navy SEAL team assasinated him, what the hell is a photograph gonna do for you?? Why is it the responsibility of rational thinkers to remind the idiots how stoopid they are?? That's operating procedure for the U.S. government/military/CIA/covert ops/intelligence - NO PICTURES. They simply make people 'disappear'.:smt036 It's up to you whether to believe it or not. Considering the crowds outside Bin Laden's alleged compound and the excuse-making by the Pakistani government, those SEALs put a bullet through the head of someone IMPORTANT.
