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  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    steve got good taste. she is hot
     
  2. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    How I personally choose identify people by race is this. If you are 1/2 of anything I don't consider you either or. I Consider you both. IMO you are in an IR with anyone who isn't the same 2 races you are. Reason being is b/c although you may connect on one side of yourself your not gonna on the other. Your mixing cultures and genes. If someone is more than half of race I will consider them either their majority race or if they identify as multiracial I would see them as that. I would only consider their relationship and IR if the person they were with was not their majority race. As long as someone has a close connection to a recent other race ancestor I don't see the big deal in calling themselves multiracial if they choose to. But if someone is 1/32 another race and calling themselves multiracial they start to look like a fool You know what I'm saying. If you can't connect to the ancestor, their culture, etc it makes no sense to me to still claim it. At this point it becomes the race of your ancestors not the race of you.
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You guys sound so dumb its not even funny. If all you people truly believe race is a social construct that has no real meaning why would you support this horseshit. How about people just being people
     
  4. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    The reason why your son is seen not white but black or multiracial in society is simple. Your son is not just white and it shows. So why would you expect anyone to refer to him as white? The reason he is seen as black is b/c of the racist one dropping system in history we can no longer distinguish people with a mixed phenotype. We can't tell if their black, mixed, and sometimes even hispanic (yes I know it's not a race but I'm gonna come back and comment later on that subject). How society incorrectly views a person should never dictate how a person sees themselves or someone that knows what they are. Personally I think that is crazy. As a mother to biracial children I would never lead my children to believe such a false ideology. They are taught the truth. Their mother is white. Their father is black. They are both and never one without the other. They are multicultural. Their phenotype is an accurate distribution of mixing their father and mothers genes. They don't look black or white, they look exactly what they are mixed. But they will also learn that society will not always see them as mixed. They were learn that society can be very stupid but that is society's problem not theirs. They don't have to be incorrect just b/c to many people in society are. They will learn that they will face experiences as many black people do. They will face the same hardships through life. But they will also learn they will not always be treated as black by black either and they will face a whole nother set of hardships b/c of that. But through that their will be both white and black that will accept them for whom they are. And those are who their friends are. A friend would never asked you to be someone you are not. A friend would not disrespect you. I also make sure my children are not only exposed to white people and black people but also other mixed race people just like themselves and families that look just like theirs. Going by the books and blogs I've read from mixed race people that is equally important.
     
  5. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    So let me get this straight you don't consider youself black?
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    No I consider myself Andrae (You'll never know my last name). I identify more with being an American because that has definable traits but first and foremost I'm human. Black is a term your people came up with like Native American, the people here never called themselves that. The whole black and white thing is interesting considering most of us are neither black nor white just different hues of brown and pink but I guess those terms don't have the same poloarizing affect.
     
  7. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    This was true for the past but it however is NOT true for today. The only wp today that will care if you have black ancestors are the KKK and groups like them. But although I have black ancestors my husband could still be attacked for being with me. In fact even back in the day BM did get attacked for being with mulatto (b/c that was how they identified) women onlookers thought were just white.
     
  8. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    So why are you on a site for black men and white women if you don't believe their is a difference in the two and you are not a black man.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because I'm blind to how society sees me according to our misguided perceptions about race. I also frequent this site because I'm attracted to women with lighter skin lighter eyes and long flowing hair. It's no different than men who frequent hot blonde sites.
    I know I won't change your views but your views on race are very misguided. Good luck with them because like I said before to all you ra ra multirace people. I would love for you to show me people who are "multi race" who are considered white or accepted as being white.
    White people are the ones who continue this rift
     
  10. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    Countries outside of America are very different. Many black Americans go to Africa to find themselves being called white. In South Africa the separated mixed race into their on group. Latin America has entirely different view of who is white and who is black. Many Latin Americans come to the US done lived their whole lives seeing themselves as white and then in the US are told they are black. I think it's Dominican Republic that has a backwards one dropping system. If you not black as in dark skin you are white. Putero Rico has another one dropping system where if you were atleast 1/4 white you are white.
     
  11. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    Wentwroth Miller, Christina Aguilera, Drew Barrymore. They are accepted as being white.

    Ask multiracial people who tells them they are not multiracial when they identify like so.

    Until a change in policy in 1989, biracial babies with a white parents were assigned the racial status of the nonwhite parent... Before 1989 biracial children faced hypodescent laws that positioned them in the non-white racial group, thus barring their entrance into the white race, though they may not necessarily have been welcomed within the other racial/ethnic group with open arms.[9]
    The National Association of Black Social Workers has influenced the American court system by arguing that biracial children should be treated as completely black. Consistent with this view, courts and adoption agencies usually categorize biracial children as black when considering placement. The primary justification for this treatment is that, in the eyes of American society, a biracial child is black and, therefore, must identify positively with being black and must be able to cope with discrimination toward her as a black person. ... As a result, the NABSW concludes that when an adoption or custody proceeding concerns a biracial child, a court or adoption agency should favor placing the child with Black parents.[10]
    By 1990, there were more than a dozen more ethnic/racial categories on the census, reflecting not only changing social ideas about ethnicity, but the expanded regions of the world from which immigrants were arriving after changes to immigration laws in the 1960s. In a United States in which racial mixing has been increasingly acknowledged and society is becoming more diverse, identifying oneself by just one category has been difficult. The Census Bureau changed its data collection by allowing people to check off more than one classification when identifying their ancestry.

    By the 1980s, parents of mixed-race children (and adults of mixed-race ancestry) began to organize and lobby for the ability to show more than one ethnic category on Census and other legal forms. They refused to be put into just one category. When the U.S. government proposed the addition of the category of "bi-racial" or "multiracial" in 1988, the response from the general public was mostly negative. Some African American organizations and political leaders, such as Senator Diane Watson and Representative Augustus Hawkins, were particularly vocal in their rejection of the category. They feared a loss in political and economic power if African Americans abandoned their one category.


    The proportion of multiracial children in the United States is growing. Interracial partnerships are on the rise, as are transracial adoptions. In 1990, about 14% of 18- to 19-year-olds, 12% of 20- to 21-year-olds and 7% of 34- to 35-year-olds were involved in interracial relationships (Joyner and Kao, 2005).[11]
     
  12. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    Why is it such a big deal to point out that Hispanic have a generalized look? Yes Hispanic are mixed race people. Africans, Native Americans, Whites mostly from Iberian peninsula but also whites from Northern Europe and little dashes of other things all mixed up. Most are more white than anything. Those whom are mostly mixed are are typically white/native and white/black. This has caused a phenotype that we contribute to looking Hispanic. What is the difference in creating this new group and adding phenotypes in the US to the black race that aren't just black?
    I don't understand how you can hate the words "such and such look Hispanic" but not hate the words "such and such look black" when they they have alot of whiteness to their phenotype.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Drew Berrymore isn't multiracial she's Irish English and German. Christina Aguilera is of latin decent which isn't a race and I'm willing to bet my balls that her whole life she checked the white box on surveys. The only reason her latin side even came to light was to benefit from the national latin explosion in the late 90s to early 2000s to sell more records.
    Wentworth Miller's black side is almost completely unnoticeable and he's far more "white" than anything else.

    Like I said before all this racial classification nonsense benefits people who look like you and hurts people who look like me. Again use Brazil as a model where the people are purely black ae treated like absolute shit and the "multirace" people are treated way better and the whites maintain their heavenly powers.
    But I can tell you're racist so have fun deluding all the other dummies about this topic.
    I'll continue to express my views in hopes that we come together instead of letting your horseshit divisive tactics get to me.
     
  14. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    I'm sorry I meant Cameron Diaz not Drew. Latino is a ethnic group that is discriminated n the US. Many latino check the white box. I know I was a census enumerator last year.

    There is many people both mixed race and just black people that are far more white than black like Walter white for example. He had 2 black parents but he was far more white.

    I didn't deny the fact colorism is a serious issue. It's right here in the US aswell. You don't have to check a multiracial box for that issue to exist. But just b/c their is an unjust system in place doesn't mean there is something wrong with acknowledging such differences. The problem is what people do with them not that they exist.
    Noting differences make me racist. Wow Ok then. I would think you as a dark skin man (since you don't see yourself as a black man) would have a deeper understanding of such a word not to be taken lightly but guess not. I obviously do not hate black people since I'm married to a black man. Clearly I don't think white is inferior since I choose (they weren't accidents) to give birth to 4 biracial children who are not just white. I couldn't comprehend purposely having off spring that you see as your children and those that will carry you own if you felt they were inferior to you.
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Sorry I meant the term racialist not racist where you put far more focus on race then necessary. If you and people like you are so concerned about heritage then why aren't you pushing for multiethnic iniatives where you identify your heritage not your race. Because all race has ever done is divide pure and simple. Those who have banned together had nothing to do with race but common suffering(that's why so many jews helped during the civil rights movements as well as white women).
    There are no positives to racial identification especially when everyone knows its completely inaccurate in terms of identifying humans.
     
  16. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    I'm am white. In the US white holds many ethic groups. Were are ethnically mixed. Their is no better term that just white IMO than having to label those separately. Also IMO since whites have been livng in the US for so long and have intermarried among each other they have created a new culture more specifically to them just like African Americans (specifically descendants of slaves) have created their own culture. My race is my heritage. I don't agree what so ever. Sure people bond together during suffrage and that is great. But I don't hardly see how identifying different cultures is a negative thing. Many cultures have accepted people outside of their culture in without suffrage and yet they are still proud of their own heritage. Just b/c some like to use such for negative purposes doesn't make it a negative.
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Like I said itt benefits you and thats why you're in support of it. Anyone in support of system that gives you priviledge over others simply because they're white shows their true colors to me. The racial caste system along with ethnic and racial pride destroys societies. Nations that last for centuries unify under one banner they don't break off into sub groups that's what makes them weak and vaulnerable but I maintain my previous mistake you are racist. You support the negative system claiming pride in something that truely means nothing outside of how helps to oppress most and benefit the few. Being married to a black man and popping out some half black babies doesn't exempt you from obvious racial overtones. Others might dismiss it but I see you for what you are and for the first time ever I think I might have to put someone on ignore. Take a bow Mrs. Duke.
     
  18. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    Seriously are you for real. Nothing I have said says anything about me wanting a system to benefit me. Why would I have children that are not just white if I liked a system that benefits white? Obviously it doesn't apply to them. Do you honestly think I want my children OR my husband to face discrimination in which through them affects ME? You choose to believe that racial heritage is nothing more than some oppressive system. That's your stupidly. If you don't feel connected to your heritage than that is your loss. I can't help you can't see past racism. Whats really ironic is you consider yourself only American and not a black American but yet you accuse someone of the very think you think doesn't think exist. You can think whatever you like it matter not to me. Ignore me whatever. My children will have pride in who they are. They will have pride in both the black and their white heritage.
    Of all the BS I've ever heard this takes the cake. I hate racism. I don't even like racial jokes. I'm very sensitive to racial remarks. I don't even agree with prejudice while all these folks running around saying "everyone is prejudice". BS no they aren't. I believe in equality. I think this is just a lame excuse for you. Since I'm white you resort to "your racist". Whatever dude.
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    What the fuck is black heritage? You have no clue what you're talking about. What is white heritage? Since you don't know what it means to be black educate us on being "white" outside of racial privilege. Being white or black is a very recent Americanist system. Even in the days when the moors invaded European lands the people identified themselves as Italians and Spaniards so what is white?
    And I call you a racist because you're insisting that I and people like myself accept a system that would further push me to the bottom. If we lived in a world where your views about multirace seperatism occured it would just be another class of people to persecute people that look like me. Again I use countries like Hati and Brazil as examples.
    And I don't get the vibe that you're an evil person but like many white people you see through a very singular lense of what affects you and those you know. Your social standing is intact not based on anything you've actually done but because your white.
    And things that affect your kids and husband won't affect you the same because you'll be able to sympathize not empthasize. Like I said before people are bonded through mutal pain not a sense of right and wrong.
     
  20. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    I said no such thing. I do not want a system that pushes people to the bottom no more than you do. But that system exist regardless of racial classification as you already named one country like Brazil. But people do use such differences to discriminate against one another. Yes they absolutely do but that doesn't make the differences bad or that we recognize it as bad. If we choose we could live in a country were we noticed our differences and appreciated them. The problem is to many people choose to not to appreciate them but rather use them as a means to discriminate just as they use class and gender. But like gender their is nothing wrong with noting we have differences the problem remains in how people react to them. Like gender I believe that we can live together but appreciate each others differences.
    Yes it will affect me. If my husband can't get job, goes to prison, etc b/c of racial discrimination is going to affect ME. I believe you got that wrong. I can emphasize but not sympathize.

    What is white heritage. It's my heritage. Its not only the genetics that have been passed down from many generations to me but also the customs, traditions, holiday celebrations, foods, democracy, history of my people, fashion, literature, music, dance, etc...
     

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