The Dark King
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This one I have to agree with
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This one I have to agree with
Morning Star
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Oh, but they ARE Christians considering they believe in a divine figure, my sweets. That's the only rule of thumb. Everything else, relating to do good work and love thy neighbor are all secular principles which religious institutions adopted into their ideas to keep a sense of "good" in their faiths. Outside of all that, what does Christianity teach that's exclusive to the beliefs that can be universally practiced?
No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Don't bother replying, I'm NOT discussing it with you. Besides, you're not looking for a discussion or a conversation; you obviously just want to argue, so there is no point.
The Dark King
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But it is very interesting to see how similar the religions from the are.
Morning Star
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You claim that I lack any information regarding one's religion? That's laughable. If anything, I've provided some information refuting your claims from the get-go. Instead of trying to respond to them accordingly you say, "You don't know what you're talking about." or "Shut up, fool." That sounds more like someone giving up altogether. I'm not here to change your perceptions, but rather make you THINK on the discussions at hand.
The Dark King
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Formal religion says don't think just have faith. Now that makes you think.
Yes, it is. Like with other things in life though, it's important to study & learn about them on a deeper level so you know what they are & what they aren't. Too many times we just take someone's word for something without finding out for ourselves. It's like signing a contract based on what the person representing the company offering the contract tells you. That person might be very convincing, but the wisest thing to do is study the fine print so you know what you're really getting. Even the Bible tells us to test out what others tell us so we can discern whether or not we're being told the truth.
Look, son...you are making assumptions about me & my beliefs based on information that hasn't been provided. You haven't refuted anything & I haven't given up on anything. I don't bother discussing important topics with those whose motivation is based on the desire to argue. You are also assuming I don't think, & you are wrong in that assumption. There is NOTHING I believe in that I haven't put a great deal of thought into. We're entitled to our beliefs & opinions, but we are NOT entitled to any explanation from anyone else about theirs. Peace.
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..Yep.. I agree with you here.
Morning Star
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1. Good job ignoring my post which provided a link relating to the topic at hand. And of course the others which MF and I deduced. You're simply not willing to respond to it.
2. I've actually tried to play middle ground by expressing the difference being one who is Christ-like and one who is Christian. You act as though it's an attack on your beliefs when I've simply given a difference between someone who acts according to what Jesus spoke of (in good nature and in favor of your beliefs) and someone who just simply believe in the deified figure of Jesus.
3. The discussion we're having is no different than what you and MF were discussing. It's just that you're willing to talk to him since he's nicer about what he states as oppose to me who take a more hard line approach. You can't pick and choose what constitutes an argument and what is an discussion since they are synchronized together.
4. I'll reiterate that I you're not much of a sheep, although I do have my suspicions on not just you, but others who classify themselves as "Jesus freaks" or "Thumpers" regarding your personable attitudes towards others who think differently from you. I'm not attacking, simply observing your behavior here.
2. I've actually tried to play middle ground by expressing the difference being one who is Christ-like and one who is Christian. You act as though it's an attack on your beliefs when I've simply given a difference between someone who acts according to what Jesus spoke of (in good nature and in favor of your beliefs) and someone who just simply believe in the deified figure of Jesus.
3. The discussion we're having is no different than what you and MF were discussing. It's just that you're willing to talk to him since he's nicer about what he states as oppose to me who take a more hard line approach. You can't pick and choose what constitutes an argument and what is an discussion since they are synchronized together.
4. I'll reiterate that I you're not much of a sheep, although I do have my suspicions on not just you, but others who classify themselves as "Jesus freaks" or "Thumpers" regarding your personable attitudes towards others who think differently from you. I'm not attacking, simply observing your behavior here.
TERRASTAR18
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why can't we all just learn a little thing called tolerance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-deLbyJ0Vs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfJ7sIWMBt4&feature=related
artyman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-deLbyJ0Vs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfJ7sIWMBt4&feature=related
artyman:flaminghetero
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why can't we all just learn a little thing called tolerance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-deLbyJ0Vs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfJ7sIWMBt4&feature=related
Tell that to those muslims.
FG
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Look, bbw - she told you that you are not entitled to an explanation and pretty much tapped out.
There is no point in discussing this - especially since most of what you wrote is not facts, its your opinion. Whether you see it that way or not. It is just that: - your opinion. You don't sit with the pure, correct answer and you are not going to change her mind and she knows she is not going to change yours.
If she chooses not to engage, its her prerogative and for you to go after her demanding a response, even after she said "peace" - which I interpret as "done" and told you you are not entitled to a response is just really uncalled for and odd.
If you want to have a discussion about this topic, you probably would get further if you kept it neutral and didn't go so aggressively about it. Its a very sensitive topic and it doesn't help you to pretty much tell people that they are wrong in their beliefs. You cant do that because you only hold an opinion, not the truth. Neither side of the argument can really prove their opinion.
There is no point in discussing this - especially since most of what you wrote is not facts, its your opinion. Whether you see it that way or not. It is just that: - your opinion. You don't sit with the pure, correct answer and you are not going to change her mind and she knows she is not going to change yours.
If she chooses not to engage, its her prerogative and for you to go after her demanding a response, even after she said "peace" - which I interpret as "done" and told you you are not entitled to a response is just really uncalled for and odd.
If you want to have a discussion about this topic, you probably would get further if you kept it neutral and didn't go so aggressively about it. Its a very sensitive topic and it doesn't help you to pretty much tell people that they are wrong in their beliefs. You cant do that because you only hold an opinion, not the truth. Neither side of the argument can really prove their opinion.
The Dark King
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Interestingly enough those who "know" that the bible is true seem to take it hard when challenged. It always devolves into I'm right and you're wrong and I won't speak about this.
The things I truly know I never feel the need to defend.
If you're implying that's what I'm doing, you're way off base.
The Dark King
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In the interest of fairness i'd say they both had valid points and he was correct when he said the Christian belief system shares a lot of the same tenants as what secularist believed centuries before Christianity came to be. It wasn't all opinion even if you don't like it some of it was fact. But I do agree once a person says their done that should be it.
The Dark King
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I'm not the type to imply anything lol but as someone who spent his primary school years reading and studying the bible on Catholic school I have to say there are a lot of flaws that people just ignore and too many take it literally when I believe the bible was meant to be a guide book not a how to book.
But I do understand that you're deep into your convinctions so a dialogue about the topic won't be done so critically so ill drop it love.
Morning Star
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Way to go for expressing an off base comment. There's absolutely nothing I've stated regarding my response to her as an opinion. I've clearly stated the obvious regarding what defines a Christian and what it means to be Christ-like. What's also factual are how our morals and ethics are societal and sociological as opposed to coming from some religious system. This is factual in of itself on many grounds.
If you're going to come here and play Superwoman for your friends, then the least you could do is contribute to the discussion. If you haven't figured it out by now, I have the tendency to get the last word and say so here and when I'm certain of something based on empirical claims and understandings, I'm more than inclined to speak my mind. So I don't see how anything I've provided constitutes an opinion.
If you're going to come here and play Superwoman for your friends, then the least you could do is contribute to the discussion. If you haven't figured it out by now, I have the tendency to get the last word and say so here and when I'm certain of something based on empirical claims and understandings, I'm more than inclined to speak my mind. So I don't see how anything I've provided constitutes an opinion.
For me it's a lot like politics, it's just not something I'm going to get deeply into because it's such a sensitive topic, & we all know how easily such topics can get out of hand.