So its ok to be considered white with a black parent? What country are you from? Sounds like third world racial ascension to me.

 

Why not? Its perfectly fine to consider them white and vice versa

"race" is a projection of perception

Since many African ethnic groups can tell the difference between themselves and other ethnic groups, if a person is half or 3 quater white for example, they stick out immediately.

the average person would project what they think the person looks like to them (white) on that person


It has nothing to do with ascension or descension

 

The problem with this issue is that people try to impose American lenses on everything. Many people dont even see it as "race" per say

Its just a physical description of a person

The average Amhara or Tigrinya sitting on the Ethiopian highlands probably does not consider a Yoruba man his "race" in any form of fashion



Americans might find this hard to understand though

 

It's so different from the US, where whites and blacks are both trained to look at facial features, hair texture, and more, because of the acute sensitivity on matters of race. That's why I think lots of people are disagreeing with you. Over here, people look at the fullness of Mariah's lips, her wavy (straightened hair), butt/hips, everything and can tell she has some black ancestry. It's like the flip side of the African example you noted where people see the whiteness of a biracial child stand out. Over here people are used to others opting out of the black race if they can, and so we pay close attention to every characteristic, and we see the black features standing out, even if they're hard to detect to someone from outside.

 

Now that's just horseshit. Especially in third world countries where being considered black or white is the difference between a life riddled with hardship and one of ease. The way you speak(it may not be your intention) comes across as a desperation to be distanced from being considered "black" since it holds such a negative perception world wide. Again where you from exactly?

 

Your examples except for the ohio couple don't satisfy the argument since they took place in other countries. We've maintained since the beginning of this relationship that this was about an American pov. Any your examples are people who are not just white in skin tone but in hair texture and eye coloring which make a huge deal. Most multi racial kids have dark eyes and browner skin so why is it so hard to understand why they are considered black in this country where the parameters are white and non white. And non white usually means black

 

You need a cat scan..lol

 

The situation exists because people subscribe to it which you are doing unwittingly.
I mean its on this website that Ive seen people insisting that so and so be called a certain race based on a one drop ideology.

The same way you look at your son and maybe feel he does not look like you totally is the same way a lot of ethnic groups in Africa would look at him and feel he does not look anything like them at all either.


I was illustrating how silly it is for a person to be insisting on a definition that is completely ridiculous

 

I totally understand this having family in the islands and the US. However, the US world view HAS largely been foisted on the world in most respects. I have noticed a growing 'Americanization' in the way people perceive things around the world, a sense of homogenization.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about do you?

 

No one insists on it being true but that it's practiced. Btw Africans as a whole don't get to tell Americans what we should consider black. You guys have more racial issues amongst people who look similar to you than we do. Stop throwing stones fam.
And as far as Tam's kid is concerned I'm sure he looks closer to "black" than "white" and here in the US thats the litmus test my friend.

 

There is some truth to that especially when it comes it comes to racializing the world. The American lenses especially when it comes to "race" is very bizzare


Many black Americans for example dont realize that if a black and white American travelled to say Somalia, both would be seen as foreigners equally. None would be treated as somebody of the same "race"



What people percieve as "race" here in America is very different in other parts of the world

Somebody in Somalia would definately not percieve an Ashanti man from Ghana as his "race"


but I dont know how to explain that to Americans

 

I'll say this in all caps so you can follow since you're acting slow.

YOU COME ACROSS AS A MAN DESPERATELY SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE STATUS QUO BECAUSE YOU THINK ITS UNFAIR TO BE CONSIDERED BLACK(EWWW ICKY I KNOW) WHEN YOU CAN ESCAPE RACIAL OPPRESSION BY CLAIMING WHITE.
Whether you intend to or not is neither here nor there this is how you are coming across.

 

like I said, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

All you do is project the only lenses you have in life of issues that are very different from what is on hand


You probably have absolutely no idea how societies have historically functioned in African societies either

 

What you're talking about is nationalism not racial identity. I'm a black man of Jamaican heritage but I can definitely tell the difference between a white person from Boston from one from Paris. So bad example

 

At this rate, you might need to check into mental rehab soon.


There is a lot to the world that you have not experienced. The fact that you keep blabbing about "escaping a racial identity" only solidifies that point


Why would anybody want to escape a "racial identity"? What status qou are you talking about?


You are completely clueless on a lot of issues which is why the first thing you jump on is "you are running away from a racial identity"


its the same mental abyss that prompted me to comment on this thread in the first place


caging yourself and your mindset in meaningless things

 

You cannot even grasp the concept of what I am telling you can you

It has nothing to do with Nationalism


It has EVERYTHING to do with them percieving you as not having any thing in common with them similar to the way they would percieve a white man

But of course, you probably dont have any concept of what I am talking about

 

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