22-Nation Arab League - 'UN, Impose No-Fly Zone Now'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110312/ap_on_re_af/af_libya

before this was just an idea on the back burner, that wasn't really being pushed. now, the League is calling (practically begging) for it and calling the UN irresponsible if they don't.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/libya_diplomacy

update - UN APPROVES No-Fly Zone in Libya, at the request of the Arab Nations League. Looks like we'll be expanding our operations outside of Iraq and Afghanistan (we always wanted a reason to go in..now we got one..Iran will be next ).

On a brighter note, our debt just increased because as always, the US will more than likely conduct most of the operation, since our forces are more advanced than any others. You can expect planes in the air and boots on the ground providing targets and rescue ops for downed pilots.

 

I think they're gonna only use air strikes to bomb targets,they're reluctant to send in ground troops.

Either way it'll be an easy job.

 

you have to send in ground forces to relay priority target information and direct the air strikes, especially since you don't want collateral damage. this is like a textbook special ops scenario. you have a good base of indigenous fighters, that can be trained and work alongside allied ones.

same thing is happening in Afghanistan right now.

 

british navy are already in position, my friends husband was called back in from leave and sent over

 

just when you thought two wars was enough....a third one opens up



after Gaddafi's out, they'll need a half-decent government set up, and guess what's going to happen then:roll:



-Gaddafi's Military Capability(http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/08/us-libya-military-idUSTRE7274QI20110308


not quite the Million Man Army of Saddam, but still dangerous to their citizens if they don't stand down. Finding those SAM/AAA locations is going to be fun.

 

give it a couple years and im sure they will find a fourth country to invade

oh and appaently in april there meant to be making more experienced army staff redundant due to budget cuts and of course those fresh outta training are cheaper. good luck with that one

 

Since you're from the UK, what do you think this means for the future health of our economy and the global economy? Do you think the global economy would collapse?

 

Well yeah... A butter bar Lt fresh from ROTC makes around 40-45k, and a private draws around 20k. Definitely cheaper per person but more numerous than say a colonel. Last time I checked tho the navy was letting people go, for obvious reasons. The days of huge armadas duking it out are over, bit the US will always need soldiers.

 

First Loss for US in Libya

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_libya

was only a matter of time before this happened

officials say they are in American hands at the moment tho

cause of the plane....mechanical failure..

that could be a technical fuck-up as a result of maintenance, or the result of enemy weapons fire, which has the potential to take individual systems offline and cause gradual degradation leading to crash.

they have to be wise tho..if they admit they got shot down by enemy fire, people back home will want the US out of that shithole even more.

 

some more articles fresh off the presses

Obama's in the hotseat now like George Dubya, for opening up another theater of conflict
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/obama-taking-heat-from-all-sides-for-libya-action



and this one of course, for everyone concerned about the nation's deficit and where their hard-earned tax money goes....
http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/costs-of-libya-operation-already-piling-up-20110321

hey i thought fighting wars was free?? :smt102


people are saying, why help in an area where we are unwelcome? on one hand, it doesn't make sense and we should just say 'fuck you,' and let them burn. On the other hand, helping is the way to make us welcome. Lending a hand in hopes that we build political and social capital in another country, for future benefit.

 

another war?! the us supports these ppl, then attacks them later, but funny how they did nothing in egypt and tunsia, but want to have hot war in tunisia and libya.

 

look on the bright side...

good hands-on experience for young pilots. If I were responsible for flight ops, I would rather send them there to build on their skills, than send them straight into Iraq or the 'Stan, where American lives on the ground depend on them.:smt109

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110323/ap_on_re_us/us_us_libya

This is what I meant. I knew they'd eventually say it publicly and I waited to find it.

There's gonna be no ground troops as in land invasion.

 

perhaps, but do you really think they'd announce having SF in country, assessing Gaddafi and linking up with the rebels for intelligence?

oh right, because the Brits announced having SAS teams in-country AFTER they fucked up and got ambushed



i'm just saying..i think we have US ground forces already there in some capacity.

 

I definitely agree that ground forces are there but they wont be engaging in fire fights in significant numbers.

 

nah

sending in advisers to train indigenous forces, is something that we've mastered over the years. you train them up with a small group of instructors, and go on missions with them, to assess what they can do. If you give a man a fish, he eats for a day....teach him how to fish...and well..



think about it...if you want the rebels to win, they have to know the theory behind small/large unit tactics. Libya is an investment and I don't think Obama wants the rebels to lose, right.

 

That was going to be my next point exactly.

 

it's just common knowledge now to anyone with some awareness of military theory. it's sound logic too. It takes pressure away from your forces and kinda encourages the multi-national camaraderie between servicemen. People that trained with others from different countries, can understand that. Like US cross-training with the Brits and Germans, from time to time.

 

the problem is how long we will be there if we do ? also long ago we backed the afghan war in the 80's and then the weapons we gave the rebels showed up against us in the afghan war of today and the Iraq war. also bin laden was backed by us in the afghan war against russia. so we need to be careful