Who would you pair yourself with?

Discussion in 'The Attraction Between White Women and Black Men' started by Mikey, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    First of all extreme Sally I'm not saying you can't enjoy simple things and be happy without private jets and homes in Europe. I'm saying money covers basic need and wants and knowing that your partner can do that with ease is comforting. No one said having money meant being a douche about it DB. Come on put on your thinking cap sweetheart. You know what I meant. Having a nice home that's yours and not a bank's is comforting being able to vacation when you want is attractive its the life most if not all want to live.
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I'm really trying my best to be respectful but you guys don't make it easy. In everything I wrote do all of you think/feel that I'm saying women just want men to buy them stuff?
    Can you guys not see the difference between that and me saying its ATTRACTIVE when he can. Its like a woman wearing a two piece well. Its not the end all be all for a relationship but its ATTRACTIVE when she can.
    I get most of you can take care of yourselves as can most women but you guys really believe
    1. All women if not most women think the way you do about wealth?
    2. A man who is financially set doesn't add to his already exisiting appeal
    3. That having money means you're going to be an obnoxious douche who tries to buy everything and everyone around him
     
  3. Max Mosley

    Max Mosley Well-Known Member

    Post debunking the above social norms by expressing contrarian aspects of their personal life in 3-2-1...
     
  4. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Very well said, DB. :smt045

    There you go being awesome again, Tarshi. Thank you. :D

    Your friend sounds like my mom. I've heard all my life I need to find someone with money so they can take care of me so I can be happy & secure. I don't associate money with being taken care of, being happy, or with security. In a relationship, men & women should be taking care of each other.

    Money is definitely not what it's all about. I'd much prefer to have love & appreciation, because material things cannot make me happy. I'm not impressed with expensive things, & I agree, I'd not want a man who tried to impress everyone with his wealth. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it says more about him than anyone else. What is he really trying to prove & who is he really trying to impress?



    It's sad that some men associate having money with getting a quality woman. A woman worth having won't be focused on that. She will want & love him for who he is & not what he has or can buy. Like DB said, a man who gets off his ass & takes care of his responsibilities is more impressive to a woman. It's without a doubt a huge turn off when men only think about money, especially when it's like he's trying to use it to buy the woman he wants. The ones that can be bought are NOT worth having. A partnership is what it's about. Like I said above, men & women should be taking care of each other.
     
  5. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    nice work ladies:smt023...i feel like we should have destiny's child here singing

    "independent women"
     
  6. Max Mosley

    Max Mosley Well-Known Member

    You know I love you Tam but this discussion says more about the way men and women argue/debate and less about the importance of money. :lol:
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Amen sir. And we're the ones who don't listen lol
     
  8. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Bug did imply in the beginning that she wanted the "best" out of a man and Max thought that the best equated to how much money you yield, which is wrong, so basically Max jump started the convo this way.

    In my opinion, there's no definition of what could be deemed as "best", within a person. It's whoever you personally find you're attracted to. If the person you're attracted to is making minimum wage and can't really fend for himself, then you should really try to help that person out instead of pushing him/her away from you.

    I find the whole discussion pointless really, I guess it's similar in nature to the obesity threads that Bug claimed were on here. I guess there are plenty of "women are money/power hungry" threads on this site also. It wasn't my intent for this thread to turn into a discussion about that, but you all brought it upon yourselves.

    I hope there aren't any other things that have been discussed on here that polarize men and women. So far since I've been here the polarization betwen the men and women on here has been about a person's weight and a person's income. Hopefully the next things won't be about clothing you wear or the type of car someone drives or something along the lines of that.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2011
  9. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    well as long as you brought it up...where do you shop and what do you drive?

    just kidding:smt056
     
  10. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    I'd prefer not to talk about it.
     
  11. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I'd like to be able to say you're wrong, but you definitely have a point, Max. The back & forth between men & women tends to get tense when it doesn't have to. Instead of being so insistent on getting our (as in BOTH men & women) own points across & trying to prove how right we are, we should all focus on listening & understanding where the other "side" is coming from. Sometimes I think we have more common ground than we realize, but we're too busy arguing/debating everything to even notice. What's the point of discussing anything if we're not open to learning & sharing from each other instead of trying to cram our opinions & agendas down each other's throats? Where is the gain in that?

    This "discussion" has reached an impasse because the topic wasn't really handled in a productive way. Just another example of crappy communication between men & women. Truth be told, both sides have some valid points.
     
  12. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member



    naaah that wud just be boring.. lol sometimes when Im bored I pick a fight just to entertain myself

    heated discussions are the best ones
     
  13. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Andre does make up a few points that money to an extent is important. If your home gets foreclosed because it's equity is too low and you don't make enough money to pay your electricity bills or your mortgage, that would be a cause for concern. To a certain degree, money is important, but you don't need the kind of money that the top 10% of this country makes to make ends meet financially and please women that you're around.

    No, it's not fun at all. This place doesn't have to be that way. People would just end up leaving the site if all it was about is fighting.
     
  14. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    I don't see anything wrong with a passionate discussion. My point is, why should I expect my point to be heard & understood if I'm not willing to listen to or understand someone else's POV. The goal shouldn't be about being right (even if it's true) or to argue for the sake of arguing. If you don't know where someone is coming from, how can a fruitful exchange take place? We all have something to learn & something to teach. Of course there are some things that we'll never change our minds about no matter how much we "discuss" them, but we could possibly learn something if we'll open ourselves up to the possibility, & to me learning is never boring.
     
  15. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I will probably get some heat for my comments, but here I go anyway.

    I understand the point that you guys are making about societal influence, traditional, evolution, etc. My sense is that people act and make decisions based on their own experiences. As most people aren't wealthy, I don't think that most women have an expectation of attaining wealth, but of obtaining comfort, the same kind of comfort they probably knew in their own families. So, they may consider whether a partner can, together with her, provide a similar experience as they have known. This doesn't discount the women who want to be mother's and want a partner who can provide for the family, or the obvious gold diggers who only want a partner who can provide for them. If that's what Mr. F and others meant, then I'm in total agreement.

    In general, I think that people look at chemistry, mutual attraction, similar interests, sometimes educational parity, same values. Those are the things that get the couple together. Of course the issue of jobs comes up, but few people, I believe, ask about the money their partner earns or his/her savings acct., until much later in the relationship, if ever.
     
  16. Max Mosley

    Max Mosley Well-Known Member

    Come on now Mikey, lets not make shit up :smt023
     
  17. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    I didn't say I did it at this site, did I.. I do it in real life.. haha however my near ones know me so they never get fooled.. haha
     
  18. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Good post, Swirlman. :cool:


    Are you being devious again, Max? ;)
     
  19. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Not everyone out there interprets it that way in the paragraph I highlighted.

    There are also "shitty" women of all kinds of races that constantly want money and possessions for men when they don't have much to support themselves. Selfishness is also another possible motive, the girl may not want to spend her own money on something, she may want to borrow money from the guy to buy what she wants. Some people out there do go crazy over money and it's an unfortunate reality that there are women of any race that do value money that an individual has over their looks or personality.

    That's another complication you have to face in finding the ideal type of girl (WW in this case) to be around, because there are some WW that could be after you over the money/possessions and not really you personally.

    Max, I'm pretty sure that's what you said. You posted that up and then Andre co-signed with you on it.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2011
  20. Max Mosley

    Max Mosley Well-Known Member

    Not this time. :smt001
     

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