Islam and the Muslim

Discussion in 'Religion, Spirituality and Philosophy' started by chocolatecream4u, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    u know what really is offending to me, is that when a dude decides to rape or beat up a woman he get to blame it on his religion.. don't let him do that, let him take responsibility for his actions as a human not as a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or whatever
     
  2. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Do you think that perhaps these kinds of men are going a wee bit crazy now that the dynamics of the world have altered to an idea which is slowly growing into a reality? Would you extend that offense if they blame it on things like alcohol? :)

     
  3. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    What I think is the worth part saying "rape and violence towards women is a part of the muslim culture" is that u actually are blaming the victim in a sence.. now I know at least 13-14 rape victms and only one offender was a muslim and she gets treated in a whole other way than the others.. people tell her like, yeah it's terrible but u know it's kinda a cultural thing.. in a sense they are teling her that she shud have known better than socializing with muslims...


    Now there is no excuse to rape somebody when ur drunk, but it is an explanation.. and if the dude actually can confess he made a huge mistake and that he is sorry that will take some of the shame from the woman and it will make it easier for her to heal.. ibut in reality it's not how things go down, in reality people blame the girl for being drunk so she had it coming

    what if they did the same when a dude dressed in armani and with a rolex watch is robbed
     
  4. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Culturally, people with retrogressive tendencies never take the time to think for a second that they are listening to phallo-centric drivel that only cause a detriment to the human psyche, thus you're no longer capable of being rational unless someone not like you would slap the shit out your head and put some sense into you. Makes the most sense, but we still have a long way to go.

     
  5. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    In Islam,dating is "haram" which basically means forbidden. He may have prayed to allah but he was definitely not a dedicated muslim if he was dating...
     
  6. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    no it's not
     
  7. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    Mary was supposed to be 14. I dont believe that story 1 bit,but she was allegedly 14 which was a normal age at the time.

    Remember,back then,40 years old was the average age of death so people had kids younger.

    At 9 years old though,that girl wasn't menstruating so any sex was purely for perverse reasons.
     
  8. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    It most certainly is. Muslims court when it's time for marriage but casual dating is haram.
     
  9. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    no they did not live til they were 40, but many people died when they were kids, that's why the avarage age was so low... and she was 12-14 years old

    kids can get their period at that age.. and nobody knows if they really had sex when she was that old, I agree that it is waaay too young, but unlike you Im not gonna dig any deeper since I donät have enough knowledge, all I am saying is that nothing is what it seam to be..
     
  10. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    Dating in Islam is a no no,anyone caught "dating" is subject to punishment. Of course when it's time to get to know someone,they dont just rush in to the marriage.

    There is a process of courting and getting to know the person but what ya'll consider dating such as french kissing,sex and all that other stuff,that can get you killed in a muslim country,disowned at best.
     
  11. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    that is soo untrue. muslims date.. some want's to have someone with them at all time when they date. some don't, everyone has their own right to interpret the Quran, and who cares how they chose to date??

    live and let live, as long as noone gets hurt
     
  12. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    I think u are confusing ISLAM with corrupt governments.. George bush said the Iraq-war ha dsomething to do with god.. that doesn't mean that all good Christians has to go bomb Iraqis, politics and religion is NOT the same
     
  13. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    According to Muslims,that was her age. The 2 only credible books in Islam are the Quran and Sunnah. The Quran was about their general religion and the Sunnah was about Muhammad's life and should be taken as law for them,for he was Allah's final prophet and the best man to ever live.

    In the Sunnah it states she was nine and if u know about Muslims and Muslim weddings,that aint unbelievable.


    Check out these guys and their young brides.
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  14. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    no he was not allahs last prophet.. not according to some of my muslim friends.. they are still waiting for a prophet


    ofcourse I know about muslim weddings since I have attended some, no nine year old brides tho


    and yeah about that picture iut i sick.. just like when some catholic old dude is raping a 7 year old boy...
     
  15. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    Socker u don't know what you're talking about. Dating can get you killed in Islam...

    Muslim men can marry a Muslim woman,a Christian woman or a Jewish woman but a Muslim woman can ONLY marry a Muslim man. Sex before marriage is haram and what we call "dating" can get you killed.

    They can get to know each other ONLY if it's about marriage but there's no casual dating. Muslim women dont have "boyfriends" and Muslim men don't have "girlfriends".

    No kissing,no premarital sex,no cuddling,no dry humping no hanky panky basically lol.
     
  16. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    You're talking about Imam Mahdi,Imam Mahdi is not a prophet.
     
  17. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    The Mahdi is basically the guy that's gonna come and establish some order to the world.
     
  18. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member



    dating in countries with terror regimes can get u killed, that has nothing to do with ISLAM.. they are using Islam to control women

    before the church did the same to women in sweden and many other countries when they killed "witches"


    and I know many women and many men who have relationship, some have sex some don't.. Christian girls and biys are not suppsoed to have sex before marriage either...
     
  19. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member


    The girl's name was Ayesha, the daughter of Abu Bakr (he was basically Muhammed's right hand man) who gave her to him. They did marry when she was 6 & he did consumate the marriage when she was 9...he was a sick motherfucker.
     
  20. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    Socker,you dont know what you're talking about so I can't blame you...

    It's not about terror regimes,it's about the actual religion. Inside of the Quran it forbids dating and so on and so forth,it's the religion that the government follows.
     

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