Male Obesity

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Mikey, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    GZ be easy my dude.
    You're talking about an incredibly small population of the fat community. The vast vast majority are lazy and eat tons of calories and could lose weight if they tried.
    Following your logic two murders in Beverly Hills make it Watts lol
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Don't say it too loud or you're a woman basher fam lol
     
  3. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    Women DO have that pressure! Who wants to be someone housewife?!? especially if that someone decides to get mean it's important to be economically independent!

    And it is easier for a man to lose weight and build muscles. so topp whining, punto final
     
  4. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    So, people who don't agree with your analysis are liars? Obviously, since we are in a forum, we all offer opinions. Some may be more valid and based on science and fact than others, but they are opinions none the less. We obviously disagree because I don't see the problem as an addiction as much as a learned behavior, supported by a lack of education and experiential, emotional and other personal issues.

    My comments are not based on "personal tastes" but from extensive reading and my own experiences and those of others I have associated with during the years. Do most people lack the discipline and desire to significantly modify their life style, probably. However, IMO, it's a much more complex problem that you suggest. We need a much more educated population that's equipped to make the right choices. I believe we need more intervention by the government to insist that the food industry eliminates the sugar and salt adulterants. Indeed, people need more exercise as well, but until they control their diets, little will be accomplished.
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Being econimcally self sufficient is totally different than being a provider. One suggests you just take care of yourself the other requires you to take care of yourslef and other people. See the difference. No is saying women don't have to work but unless you're doing something like stripping or whoring no one judges you on your occupation.

    It may be easier for a guy to lose weight but more weight on your hips and chest is hot ona guy its nasty.

    And its not whining if its the truth and again thanks for being fair and balanced because when the women "whine" you're right there to call them on it too.
    Wait...
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member


    When said you and others were liars I'm pointing out the fact you guys keep saying there's a lack of education which implies ignorance which is simply untrue. There's not one person amongst us who doesn't know that eating junk food is bad for you. We don't need to learn about good foods and bad foods we just ignore it and when people like yourself insist on education education education you ignore the real problems. It is an addiction there are so many studies that show that mice who are given the same additves that are present in junk food actually go through withdrawl. Its not as simple as grapes opposed to a cinnabon. You honestly think that most people don't recognize one being more healthy than the other?
    And like I've been saying a very slow gradual change coupled with burning 500 calories a day will go much further than just teaching people to cook because it means nothing if they won't do it. It took years of bad habits to get us here and it'll take an even longer time to get us on track. Positive change is much slower than negative ones.
     
  7. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member


    Guess there are cultural differences cus where i live the man doenst't have that role as a provider. i wud never date a man because he was rich cus honestly that would make me a prostitute in some way.

    If I whine i wudnät mind noone telling me to shut up either,, haha and yeah it can be the truth and whine at the same time. @multitasking
     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Fair enough lol. Welcome to the forum kid.
     
  9. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    thanks Mr fantasticooo :p
     
  10. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    SockerVadd is a very intelligent,funny and also a very classy young woman from Sweeden.
     
  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    too late milk you are already on rupauls love list. Tirkah you couldnt debate me and win if i disconnected the corpus callosum.
     
  12. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    thank u mr, haha compliments always work, guess u don't have to shut me up now after all. aint gon be no whinin going on for a while

    ms intelligent is happy
     
  13. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    I don't disagree that fast foods are the single biggest contributor to the epidemic of obesity, along with the significant increase in unhealthy snack foods and the adulteration of foods. My concern is that you address the problem only as one of fast food addiction, rather than looking at it as an issue of improper nutrition in general.

    I'm sure that you would agree there're large numbers of people who are obese as a result of eating non-fast food. They eat high portions of simple carbs, bread, white rice, macaroni and potatoes. The diet of the average American is very high in fat from fried foods, butter, sauces and high fat meats. People consume large quantities of sugar laden snack foods, ice cream and candy. These aren't fast foods. They are the staple of diet of most people and they cause just as many problems as fast food. Do these people recognize these non-fast foods as the major contributors to obesity? I don't think so, and that's why education is so vitally important.

    Even taking your idea of fast food addiction to it's logical end, how do you deal with an addition if not through education? Traditional addiction programs are based on education and counseling. These programs explain the addiction, and why they are addicted. They attempt to identify through counseling the personal issues that affect the addiction. So, how would the problem of food addiction be any different?

    IMO, this is a complex problem. Education will be important, whether to teach nutrition or deal with the addictive aspects of the problem. Fitness is part of the solution as well. But, if you insulin intolerant or consuming far too much of the wrong foods, a trip to the gym won't help very much. In fact, if you look at gym members you can see this played out every day. How many people go to the gym several times a week, for years, and yet fail to lose weight? I see it often, and when they ask me for advice I always tell them that it starts with the diet.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  14. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    I wasn't ever gonna try to shut you up. After speaking to you in the chat last night I realized you were very intelligent and funny.
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    LMAO, wow.
     
  16. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    haha u shud never say never.. sometimes I even wanna shut me up myself, but I have had to accept that's just impossible
     
  17. desreveRsIgnitirW

    desreveRsIgnitirW New Member

    Ok,now I want you to. I'm jokingggggggg.
     
  18. sockervadd

    sockervadd New Member

    hahah athe thing is that after talking to me yesterday u also thought I was male and gay for a while.. haha so I wudnt trust my comclusons completely if I were u
     
  19. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    bolded part = yes lol. i agree with what you're saying swirly...good post

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    did you watch this...???

    the kids are 6. they know what ketchup is, but didn't know what a fresh tomato looked like. they didn't get one of the vegetables correct. what does this say...??? to me it says quite simply that these children do not eat fresh fruit and vegetables. if they are not getting any of these things at home or at school where are they going to learn about them...??? now tell me again how it's not education that is lacking. how will these kids ever learn how to cook nourishing healthy food for themselves & then their future families if the support system around them are letting them down so badly...?? what's the point in exercising if you're going to go home to a super-sized meal deal & a packet of tim tams and wash it all down with soda...??? i will stand by the fact that i believe that we need to educate the kids on what they're putting into their mouths & portion control from an early age & get them in the kitchen as well as getting them to exercise.
     
  20. Brittney

    Brittney Well-Known Member

    DaUsMsB, my new pet name for you is Tirwy! :)
     

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