a disgrace to the black man

pffft next you will tell me that Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence owned slaves and the sky is blue. I mean come on look how long before he even addressed the problem. That could have been handled from the get go. I think Ulysses Grant had a bit to do with it as he was one of the few that handle it from the get go as president. His first year, he was trying to get african americans voting rights unlike Lincoln that took forever.
I could use some info on Grant though.

 

Lincoln didn't want to free blacks. The emancipation proclamation didn't even free all slaves, just slaves in the the Confederate States, and even then he didn't uphold the proclamation. The only reason he even got as far as the proclamation was because of the strong abolitionist base in his party he had to appease.

I'd agree with you on Grant. He reigned in the KKK, was the first President to have blacks elected to congress positions, and championed civil rights for slaves. Naturalization bill he passed in 1870 made blacks citizens, etc. Grant's problem was corruption.

 

This is so very true. Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president, was seen as the man who abolished slavery; thus, his nickname, "The Great Emancipator". His motives were other than altruistic, as well as his view that enslaved Afrikans were inferior. "I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

What's so sad about this is that Lincoln was mixed himself. He had black ancestry running in his veins. Lincoln had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed “Abraham Africanus the First” by his presidential opponents and cartoons were drawn depicting him as a Negro.

 

On the Subject of Disgraces...Meet Rev. Patterson

I recently saw the video and it reminded me that there will always be those among us who are so unenlightened, brainwashed and clueless that they serve no redeeming function, at least to Black Americans.

You have to get past the first 1 1/2 minutes to get to his "praise of slavery".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQQGaXAepOw&feature=player_embedded

 

I viewed that video:smt103 It is appalling that he thinks that slavery was a blessing in that it provided a way for blacks to get to America. That is a very selfish mindset and a great dishonor to his ancestors who made it possible for him to sit in that chair and say such dumb shit as that. There are many African men in various parts of the world. Yet, this guy thinks that slavery was the African man's only mode of transportation to America.:smt100

 

I know about Abe Lincoln reasoning for freeing the slaves, and was not freeing them to free them there was economical motives behind it. Can you provide a link to the above, thanx.

 

This jig gives thanks to transatlantic journey, damn, what a fucken ape. And he call hismself a man of God and allowed to preach to folks, wow. Is he the same fool who attended Harvard and has a radio show? Man the coons come out of every angle ready to tap dance for WM Bojangles stlyle, smdh.

 

That famous quote about Abe saying superior and inferior race and the white race being superior was honestly political posturing. Douglass backed him into a corner and tried to convince the public he was an abolitionist. To save face with the white voting public, he had to come out strong and denounce any abolitionist views and come out against it, which he did with that statement.

In my mind I think he was an abolitionist, but he wanted nothing to do with blacks in America. He wanted the slaves shipped back to Africa.

 

Well, I completely agree with your first sentence but not the rest of your post. A.L. definitely DID NOT want to be seen as an abolitionist. A.L was very conflicted and changed his position through his term also. But, back to the issue of his being an Abolitionist. Abolitionists did not believe in the constitution. They thought that blacks should be free regardless of the constitution.

A.L was the president, someone who believed in the constitution and swore an oath to uphold it. In fact, A.L. was Colonialist. Colonists were whites who believed that all slaves should be sent back to Africa. A.L was on the board of a group of Colonialist.

He did want to appease his constituency as you stated, because in 1850 it was against the law in Illinois for a black person to even enter the state. He was put in a corner by Douglas in the debate and had to say something and thus his statement about superiority of white people.

Lincoln's view about slaves changed later in his administration, primarily as the result of slaves fighting for the union in the Civil War. He felt that because they risked their lives, that they should be free.

 

There are quite a few reasons the civil war was fought, but most have to do with money.

 

Don't forget a lot of immigrants were coming to the U.S. and given freedom if they fought.

 

that's because they feared the alternative


stop trippin like they actually had a fair chance at life

 

You stop trippin. I know for a fact that it wasn't a fair chance at life for them (that is my point here on this very thread) and if you'd read my earlier posts instead of running off half cocked you would know this. I was simply stating that some volunteered. You ASSumed that I personally thought it was fair chance at life for them.

 

whatever dawg

 

Okay Dawg. Kisses?:smt060