MONEY MANGER "Dont go to College"

I guess my experience is different since I went to Catholic school and my college experience was much different since I commuted.

And like I said before certain classes are great for deep thought but certain areas shouldn't be majors like philosphy or sociology. Huge wastes of time.

 

Cosign!!! I am touch with more college friends now than anyone else.

 

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ATTN: MrFantastic: Listen To This...

 

I went to a commuter school too so it's not just for peeps who go away. Although now I wish I had:

a) Gone away (couldn't afford it)

and

b) Pledged a frat (was invited to rush A Phi A but was too rebellious at the time to let a bunch of negroes beat up on me, haha)

Philosophy or sociology aren't wastes of time at all, you can use those skills to get peeps to do whatever you want Although if you major in them there's not a lot out there for you.

I guess you get that I am down with any kind of knowledge, not just what will fatten your pockets at least in the short run.

 

I think it's because they're basically the last people you get to know before you go on to your adult life.

Also black and white students are together in the trenches in college for the most part, the only time that they and you as a black person are on roughly equal ground. Everybody's broke in school basically unless your fam is super-rich. Of course white kids go on to more opportunities by virtue of who they are, but for that brief moment you are roughly equal.

 

I guess you can tell I'm a fan of college. Hahaha

 

I know I come across as anti-college, I am actually not. I consider myself a realist, would you beleive if I say I sometimes teach and mentor grad students? lol, the irony. Anyhoo, I do agree with some of the valid points raised by Satyr, Karma, BBW and Dre.

If you are from middle class America, have good family and financial support and college is not where your heart is, then dont go and waste your money and precious time (youth) on campus, instead do bag packiing to Euro or Africa, volunteer for peace corps, learn life in the real world, meet interesting peeps. If you are an entrepreneur then start a biz.

But if you are not from middle class, have a limited horizon, limited contacts and a small prism to look at life then as Karma pointed out go to college.

If money or power dont mean shit to you and you love to intellectualize, philosophize and want to be an academic guru then by all means attend prestigious school.

College is not for everyone.

 

Yeah, I'd have to say that the majority of friends I have that commuted rather than live on campus still live in regret (and karma proved my point- thanks, handsome!). You don't get the full learning experience. Every person I know with kids who has the brilliant idea to send their kids to a community college for two years and then finish off a bachelor's in a four year school has gotten the rough side of my tongue over it. And really, that's not to say that you learned nothing, because I know you've got a great head on your shoulders- BUT- I do think you missed out on something else that was essential.

And you know what, Mr. Liberal Arts hater..lol? I have a BA in English and Women's Studies- it taught me how to think outside of the box and to see things from many different perspectives. Those skills benefit me greatly in my current position. Many times we are developing something for our centers in Hungary and *I* am the person that has to say 'Wait, are they going to understand what they means, not being a native English speaker?' or 'That's a great picture, but could it be offensive to the lab in Japan? Perhaps we should change it.' No one else- all of the doctors, nurses, and IT people I work with- sees that until I mention it.

As fluffy a degree as you might think English Lit is, many people are using it in creative ways and it's getting them places.

I agree, karma. There was a time when a truly educated man was considered to be the one who had the entire Bible memorized. Not only that, he could also quote Shakespeare at the blink of an eye, knew passages from Canterbury Tales, The Odyssey, and any number of classical works.

To some extent, I still believe that kind of knowledge is important- nevermind good for your brain! Knowledge, in any form, is really an amazing tool.

 

Listen up sweetcheeks I agree certain classes can be beneficial and as fellow SUNY grad who did a liberal arts program much of it is redundant and all you learn (in regards to majors like women's study and poli sci) is information on how people get fucked. Outside of core classes that could have been summed up in maybe 12 credits not 60 plus a thesis. As electives I think liberal arts are great to keep you informed about the world. Maybe even as a minor but definitely not a major. Its great if you want to have coffee shop conversations that really lead nowhere and to sound really intelligent to the under or uneducated but I guess I wish I had learned mpre tangable skills. God bless the guy who can build his own table and hunt his own food because those of us who can recite Shakespeare and write 20 page papers don't really know shit.

 

Yes I agree. We are all basically equal in college. Most of my friends were Chinese or African (from Africa) back then. There were not many people interested in the electronics field then. We still keep in touch and today they are contacts now, not just friends. Always making offers because most of them are rich from business but I never accept. One of my best friends from back then has even learned to appreciate white women...LOL





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I'm all for education. Knowledge is important but skills are far more important in a world of competition and kids shouldn't be going into debt without learning a useable skill. I wish learning how to make a fire or hunt or even manage my credit was mandatory not useless theory. I can summarize why there's instability in the middle east in less than three pages but how does that help me get a job? Thank God for accounting.

 

OK..let me distract you with this first...



Look! Pigtails! :smt061

I don't think college was ever designed to teach you tangible skills. It was designed to teach you to *think*. If you want to learn how to balance a checkbook, go ask a banker. If you want to learn how to conceptualize new possibilities for the future and discuss the possibilities your ideas have- go to college. I DO see what you're trying to say- don't think I don't- I just think it's unfair to categorize all liberal arts degrees into the same category. I mean, you are in charge of what you do with that information- if you take it to have some pseudo-intellectual coffee shop conversation with some elitist hipster wearing organic clothing, then personally, I think it was a waste...BUT, can you really say that I am wasting my degree by using the tools I've learned to take into account other perspectives? I mean, I sure as heck bought my house on the money I'm making from that liberal arts degree...

Besides, if you can recite Shakespeare, it's a mark that your brain is healthy. We don't use enough of our brains. How many phone numbers do you actually have memorized? Can you recall entire pieces of literature from memory? Probably not.. because we aren't taught things like that anymore. Most of us only know one language. There was a time that educated men were supposed to know Greek, Latin, and a few other languages to be considered truly enlightened ON TOP of all of those classical texts I mentioned. Maybe not applicable in today's world, but many times we draw comparisons in human experiences from literature and it helps us to understand ourselves and others better.

 

The hazing to become a greek is stupid.you pay to get your ass kicked so you can where some letters so you can say you are with this group. hell naw !!!!! I went to the army and I got paid for that shit and it was to stay alive and when wars.

If you were taught to think outside the box then why did you use a cliche to say you think outside the box. why could you come up with something that is outside the box. LOL

liberal arts (english) are great for grant writings and all sorts of stuff including writing tech manuals and such

 

Meh. I haven't slept much in five days...lay off, goodlove. Don't make me cut you!!

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lol

 

LOL. I couldnt help myself

 

Be nice, or I'll get my new forum fiance after you!! LOL :smt091

 

Damn good pic btw damn I love pig tails lol.

Like I said earlier I think as classes or even as a minor liberal arts courses are valuable but in this technology driven world our young people need to emphasize more on the sciences to be competitive in the global economy. Reciting passages from the bible once meant you were educated now it means your a loon. Understanding concepts helps but what truly marks intelligence is tangibility. Chrisitians don't remember Jesus mainly because of teachings but because of things he actually did.
Self actualization is indeed one of the many great adventues in the human experience but creating things of use is what solidifies our ability to survive and thrive in this world. I get that the liberal arts thing worked out for you but in most(not all) those degrees are useless without an advanced degree.

 

hell yeah. sad to say you are right. As far as the bible it has become a business than help people self improve but when was it used in a noble manner

 

lol, yeah, I know ya do. I figured it would distract you and you'd say 'Yes, DB. You are SO right!'

Gosh! Foiled again!

All right then. Ya'll continue on. I've said my peace on the subject. :wink:

 

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If I remember correctly, you were back in college or going to to study Math so you can become a Math teacher. Now, is Math considered liberal arts where you attend school?