Anyone else refuse to date?

Indeed,

When ones makes a choice he/she does so with the hopes that that choice will prove to be successful. I try to make choices that will increase my chances of success. That being said, dating women who had formal secondary education increases the chances of success. Does it mean people with degress with bet smart....BAHH... of course not.

...but does it increase the chances of success.

Of course it does.

 

I have been here awhile but I still have figured you all out. Post a preference or a choice of what you like or not and someone is going to post...

"Just because you (.......) doesn't mean you (.........)

of course not. And I dont' recall anyone saying it, or suggesting it. But just because you DON'T have a degress doesn't mean you are going to be the regional manager of Best Buy either. We know that group compared to group the higher the educated the

....less tress a person has
....the more healthy a person is
....the longer the person lives

Does that mean everyone........of course not. More often than not when you bring up the topic of a college education it won't be the people have have a degree claiming to be smarter than those who don't.....it will be the ones who don't have a degree trying to prove that they are a smart as the ones who do.

 

Ayo, woman iz tell me I need some Edumecation and some diplomaz, I wantz to speake proper, I wantz to getz smart and be somebody in the meducation field. Where can I file and get me GED iz?

 

About the degree thing...

Do I prefer that someone I date has the same amount (or more) of education as I do? Absolutely. Is it a requirement? No. It's simply what I called it in the other thread..a red flag. If you started one, why didn't you finish it? Lack of ambition? Lack of funding? Life circumstances? If you didn't start one, why not? Because you didn't have to? Military? Because you didn't want to? These are simply questions that roll through my mind. Now that's not to say that someone who never pursued college isn't as smart or even smarter than I am, I recognize the fact that it's entirely possible. Then again, my ex boyfriend is a Temple grad (thanks to their basketball program) and is one of the most uneducated people I've ever met. So does a degree mean crap, maybe not. But it does raise questions for me, PERSONALLY.

However, this is all a mute point since I am not on the dating scene.

 

I dont care about a degree. I know people w PhDs up the yingyang that one wonder how they get into their own trousers in the morning. I swear Ive met some really stupid PhDs. I have conversely met drop-outs that are smarter than most people I know. So I take it on a person to person basis.

 

And this is why you rock woman.

 

And this is why you never hear FG crying about not dating. This and the fact she's smart with a hot body. :heart:

 

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It's funny how the prettiest girls have the best attitudes sometimes lol

 

Oh my!!! I'm dumbfounded! Thank you so much guys! Ill be arrogant in a minute if you keep it up.
:smt060:smt060:smt060

 

You don't have to, others will gladly do it for you.

 

I think you're being polite and perhaps expressive of the egalitarian impulse in your first culture. That said, I don't doubt the authenticity behind your words.

I also don't doubt the likelihood of women who have a romantic interest in black men being willing to accept certain trade-offs in terms of educational achievement. But they shouldn't have to.

Keywords for Raul: egalitarianism, Sweden, culture, golf club.

 

I would never say anything I don't mean, I'm not wired that way. Ive been accused way too many times that I'm too honest, I may be polite about it, but I will always be honest.
in "General", a degree may be a valuable gauge of who you are dealing with - but only in general. You really should take it on a case by case basis. Anything else is unfair, imo.
I have learned a loooong time ago to not get stuck on degrees. I have dated people w very little education that hade huge drives and found their niche - , that didn't make me feel like I was oh so much smarter...
What I value way more than a degree is a finely tuned common sense. I can not date a guy that lacks that.

How many people do you know that have fine degrees, but no common sense? I know a lot... thus, I go for common sense rather than a degree.

You are correct, it could be an egalitarian impulse from my upbringing in my first culture, but I can not honestly answer if that is the case or not...

 

Excellent post, sugar. You summed it up perfectly

 

oh shucks, thats the second time tonight this board made me blush... I think I may not be able to get out of the house with the size head Im getting:-D

Thank you girls!!:smt055

 

In the formal sense, degree is an indicator of specialty in an area or certification of the idea that you are trainable, or even accessible/flexible to learning.

It helps to weed out so many other complexities that comes with modern life and the guesswork of determining competence, potential and discipline and motivation. It is a tried and tested method that society uses to allocate jobs and functions. At least without knowing the person firsthand, the degree gives a hint about desirable qualities and where the person has been knowledge wise.

So you know what folks? Degree is important, very important, in my reckoning.

But then, it might not be important to many, especially where social experience makes up for degrees. I think sometimes growing up in populated urban environments where there is a huge intensity of "developments" all around you; the culture of people tend to be richer because they have been exposed to several life experiences.

I say this because when you look at the life of Larry King , and Jay Z, they both represent socialization in a space called Brooklyn of different generations and both have gone on to be successful without degrees. I have just used a familiar experience and common draw from the American experience.

I can also draw as far as Scarborough, Ontario (Canada) : Jim Carrey; take it further to Russel Crowe (Sydney, Australia ). That said, it does not apply only to artists, or actors. It extends to innovators like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Henry Ford.

For some, a degree might not be necessary as in a formal body of knowledge o certification. Still, it makes sense to argue that society would be without order if we hardly select on degree. It a step to begin a conversation, sometimes, without all the merry go round.

 

Theres two completely different arguments going on here....

A. debating what a degree means for a career
B. debating what a degree means in our everyday lives (relationships,conversations, etc..)

Both A and B are being interchanged to win over the argument of the other.

Since this thread is about relationships, education is a factor if youre either relying on a potential mate to give you a certain standard of living or actually do believe being a good student significantly contributes to being a smarter person.

My personal opinion is that its ALWAYS better to be educated than not. Financially and socially. The only aspect I disagree with some people is regarding the notion that being educated equates to being a smart person.

Status aside, an education demonstrates the following....

1) Work ethic
2) The ability to be a good student(good note taking, memorization, good study habits)

Along with demonstrating the above...for an employer, hiring an educated person is an insurance policy. It basically "justifies" the hire to their superior and provides an alibi if something goes wrong. If the educated employee majored/specialized in a particular subject relevant to the job, its a no brainer.

Now getting back to relationships.... I'll say again that the only thing screening your dates for their education does is ensure you that theres a better chance you'll wind up in a bigger house if it works out

 

I am not sure anyone can divorce education and relationship in modern life. There are some aspects of education (formal) that carries on into modern life. The liberal arts, for instance, enables you appreciate the nuances of culture. It explains the reason why a lot of people are calling that liberal education be made important before people end up specializing.

I think education can mean several things. It does not have to be codified (formal) body of knowledge as we know it. My point is everyone gets educated, although it might not be in sense we understand it (like in certification through degree). Social experiences are other dimensions of education that the public school system has no way of tracking.

My other point is these things are character building and are transferable. The skills you acquire over your years of schooling might also serve you in the relationship market. When we talk about relationships we are talking about qualitative choices that are no rigid rules to selection. Social experiences form the pool from which we draw our criteria for selection.

Maybe in capitalist America ...where there is very practical approach to life and choices, education equates to money and big houses, in order countries, where welfare system is well developed, education to commitment to social causes.

 

Agree wholeheartedly with everything except the part in bold unless your mean education, even in its non formal form as you stated below.

Yep, which is why I agree that its always better to be educated than not. But lets not forget....Any man or woman dating can discover the nuances of culture you mention through simple conversation. Its either there or isnt. Simply place yourself in the circles or environment conducive to the interests you value most.

 

fantaaastic post!!!!!!!!