Gorilla walks like a human

Discussion in 'In the News' started by 4north1side2, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    The universe is randomness in essence, thermodynamics is random, it only reflects the symmetrically random nature of the universe.
     
  2. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    see I stopped reading that post after he put in ignorance. I knew no good could come of it if you put ignorance into it.
     
  3. z

    z Well-Known Member

    How in the fuck these fucken monkeys got famous is beyound me.
     
  4. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    It's because they are walking gorillas.
     
  5. z

    z Well-Known Member

    LoL, if I did not know better I would say you got Espy's sense of humor.
     
  6. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    you forgot juiceheads as well tammy...!!! they're juicehead gorillas
     
  7. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    LOL! That's a good thing...Espy has a great sense of humor. :D
     
  8. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I feel that randomness is only there when you do not have all of the "rules" to the universe. There remains to be many formulas to be written and so much information to be found.
     
  9. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Oops...we missed something else, too...it should be ugly, juicehead walking gorillas. ;)
     
  10. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    duh...!!! good pick up...!!!
     
  11. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    :cool:
     
  12. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    There are no rules to tell which way a certain molecule is heading after a certain amont of collisions, there is really no way to know, it's chaotic and random, and even if we knew we would never be able to deal with the amount of information, that's how the universe works, there is no need for the notion of a creator, things just happen randomly.
     
  13. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    hmmm there are things that are random in the universe. I mean gravity doesn't randomly turn on and off or the heart doesn't just blow up randomly. That's where I see a lack of randomness.

    If you dropped a pencil, would you guess it would go down or up? why?
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Its not all random there is equillibrium and harmony in the universe otherwise we'd be experiencing entropy. So yeah....
     
  15. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    In thermodynamics you only work with 3 quantities, the internal energy U, the volume V and the number of mols N and we call a function entropy a function of this three quantities S = S(U,V,N) in which the partial derivative of S with respect to U gives the inverse of the temperature, of U with respect to V gives the pressure (-P) and with respect to N gives the chemical potential, all told we postulate the entropy to be proportional to the logarithm of the number of possible states, that's where the random nature of thermodynamics creeps in S = K ln(number of possible states), let me think of a simple example here... we have five energy levels and three indistinguishable particles a, b and c, then you have 5!/(5-3)!3!, the natural logarithm of 5!/(5-3)!3! x the boltzmann constant in the thermodynamics limit where V/N converges and both V and N goes to infinity gives you the entropy of this particlar system, having the entropy you have all the information you need, the partial derivative with respect to U will give you the inverse of the temperature and so on, why would there be the need for a creator??? see how nature can work on its own without a creator?
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2011
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    How can you determine that the creator didn't create nature as we know it?
     
  17. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    We can't, I can't prove there isn't a creator any more than I can prove ghosts don't exist or Santa isn't real, I'm just showing nature can work without a creator.
     
  18. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Isn't it beautiful when we get information to stop what we might have perceived as randomness? I can even get my weight on any planet. That's not random either.
     
  19. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    No, that's not random, not everything in nature is random, there are some things we can easily calculate, but the thing is, you can easily describe nature using probability and the whole ensemble will give you all the possibilities, the set of all possibilities can describe a system as well, in some cases even more accurately.
     
  20. z

    z Well-Known Member


    ROFL, you two southern folks are killing me here, lol.
     

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