Gorilla walks like a human

Discussion in 'In the News' started by 4north1side2, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Convenient??? You try living millions of years. It is a hard thing to do for any species. So difficult that I don't even think there is one that has done it. If they do exist, I bet there are a few of those species. You have to be able to adapt. Humanity and the rest of the primates did our jobs to adapt. That species didn't!

    You continually fail to understand evolution. To diverge would require for a merger of chimp and human. In case you haven't noticed, Both species are doing fine. No purpose! We are surviving and the chimps are surviving. Evolution does not happen for your entertainment. It happens to keep species surviving. We are at what over 5 billion and growing strong not to mention we dominate the planet. Why would we need them when we have been so successful on the planet?
    You have a bad understanding of evolution. The point of evolution is to survive. It is not to make hybrids. How on earth will that make humanity or chimps survive by breeding between species? There is no point what so ever! Same thing for lions and tigers. That is why they don't exist naturally. No purpose for either species to do it!
     
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  2. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member


    For someone who thinks he has a clue what evolution is, you've completely misinterpret a lot of factors when you made that example.

    1. We've descended from a common ancestor. One which is not quite ape, nor quite human. In other words, that ancestor basically "split" between our cousins and us.

    2. We share the same genetic code. Ninety-nine percent of our genetic make-up are shared with our cousins, the Ape. Talk Origins provides this bit of information.

    3. Given that Evolution is a scientific fact (we all came from our parents), denying evolution also means denying your existence as a human being, which says a lot when it comes to people who rather delve into more supernatural ideas, by which carries no weight in the matter of how we've evolved.

    4. Also, direct yourself here. This is a book regarding the evidence of evolution by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. This should give you a clearer understanding as to how evolution works.

    5. Furthermore, we as humans share some degree of DNA from other animals as well, which include fish, dogs, etc...

    And lastly, one thing I'd like to point out is that if you're self-described creationist, then what you're telling me is that you rather believe you came from shit (aka dirt) instead of a natural gradual occurrence. That's the saddest thing anyone can settle for.
     
  3. JUANMACKER

    JUANMACKER Active Member

    You agree with me, Hybrids are not a part of evolution, survival is

    So that means there are no ape-like creatures that evolved into man.

    Man is a species among itself. Not a primate, not an ape.

    Alec Baldwin narrated a mini-series called "Walking with Cavemen".

    He said that it took one millions years for the cavemen to put a spear on a long stick, to make a long spear as a weapon.

    Logically, something is wrong here. How stupid do you think these cavemen were? Something is wrong with carbon-dating or the scientist who say this is true. My point is these scientists don't know what they are talking about.
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    ape-like does not mean ape! first of all. It means it had some qualities of an ape.
    Carbon dating is not fool-proof. It is used to give a ball park figure. You can have them analyze your hair and they will give you a ball park of how old you are. It was done on the Dr. Oz show. The age that was projected was very close.
     
  5. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Hahahah, okay okay...humor me here. If we're not Primates, then what are we? How you explain the 99% identical genetic make-up between Apes and Humans? You're dodging the issue altogether and you're not making any sense. Think you can put away the Bible Condom and actually use rational thinking?

    Last I recall, we're part of the animal kingdom and we're part of the species "homosexual sapien". Still willing to ignore facts or rather think you're part of a supernatural, god-like scale?
     
  6. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Honestly, none of this shit really makes any kind of difference.

    Stop all the arguing, give the gorilla a fucking cookie & have a nice evening.

    Peace. :cool:
     
  7. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Tam if you don't want to participate fine but simply dismiss an intelligent conversation because your delicate Christian sensibilities won't allow you to see logic and realize the bible isn't literal just a guide on how to live our lives not an instruction book. Geesh.
     
  8. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    :smt043
     
  9. JUANMACKER

    JUANMACKER Active Member

    The Chicken or the egg?

    I'd rather believe that we came from an Almighty God than from what scientists say that we came from, an amoeba.

    I do believe in evolution, just not between different species which is what humans and chimps are: different species.

    The only evolution that exists are: mental, sexual, and same species: i.e. short-necked giraffes into long-necked giraffes.

    Just like the question of the chicken or the egg? Which came first?

    Another theory is that we came from an alien planet far, far away from an intelliegent superior God-like alien that brought us here on earth and left us here, like lab rats in a cage.
     
  10. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

  11. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    That was a stupid statement, you seem to have many misconceptions about what a scientific theory is, you don't "prove" anything in science, nothing is definitive in science, Galilean relativity was thought to be correct for centuries until they found out it didn't work for speeds comparable to the speed of light, so they settled on the current theory of relativity which agrees with experiment, that's how things work in science, asking that the theory of evolution be proven is just as absurd as asking for a definitive proof of the theory of realitivity. A theory is based on evidence, there are many archaeological evidences that corroborate the theory of evolution, nothing has ever been found that suggests that the theoryis wrong, so you don't have to "believe" in it, you don't believe a theory, you either accept it on reject it on grounds of evidence.
     
  12. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    There's no need for you to hide your ignorance if all this information is going over your head, Tam. It'd be best for you to not post on this particular thread if you have nothing to contribute to except the usual thumbs up or cool emotes. They are just a waste of space.

    And also, one doesn't have to blinded by their faith either. Dr. Francis Collins, head of the National Institute of Health and a devout Christian is a brilliant example of an individual who can separate his faith from science. He's an amazing scientist and he too finds Creationism and Intelligent Design utter bullshit.
     
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  13. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The chicken came before the egg genius. The chicken was an animal that evolved from something came from the sea. Which fyi came from God. How many years of study have you put into evolutionary biology or would you be so kind to provide a peer reviewed journal article that supports your assumptions.
     
  15. empyrium

    empyrium New Member

    That's NOT a theory, that's a belief, if you knew what a theory is you would know that's not a theory, neither is creationism.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Creationism yes but according to his last book it seemed like he supported intelligent design.
     
  17. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    He believes that God is the starting point of how evolution came about. Remember, Evolution explains how things change over time or descent with modification. Regarding the origin of life, he actually supports abiogenesis. But regarding how existence begin, he implies that God is a the prime mover or central force.
     
  18. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    God forbid human scientist make mistakes. Because as we all know, humans are perfect at everything we do. Perfect!:smt105
     
  19. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    BBW, don't ASSume you know anything about what I know or don't know about any subject. When it comes to me, you don't know shit young man. Stop trying to baffle me with bullshit gibberish, because you are in over your head.

    I could jump right in & give my input, but there is no point doing so with people who have no desire to learn because they think they already know everything. Don't flatter yourself with thoughts that your intelligence is on some upper level that folks with space wasting contributions like mine can't reach. Your OPINION of me or my contribution is immaterial. If you don't like what I post, follow your own advice & put me on ignore.
     
  20. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I support that too! For all of this crap to happen randomly from a bang(literally to come out of nothing) is B.S. The universe is too complicated for randomness. Nothing is random if you have the correct information.
     

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